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Are you of the idea that we should let everyone get automatic rifles because, after all, pistols exist? Because that is the exact same line of thought. > Peop

Are you of the idea that we should let everyone get automatic rifles because, after all, pistols exist? Because that is the exact same line of thought. > People believe what they want to believe. Regardless of quality of provided evidence. That is a terrible oversimplification of the mechanics of propaganda. The entire reason for the movements that are popping up is actors flooding people with so much info that they question absolutely everything, including the truth. This is state sponsored destabilisation, on a massive scale. This is the result of just shitty news sites and text posts on twitter. People already don't double check any of that. There will not be an "understanding of assessing veracity". There is already none for things that are easy to check. You could post that the US elite actively rapes children in a pizza place and people will actually fucking believe you. So, no. Having this technology for _literally any purpose_ would be terribly destructive for society. You can find violence and Joe Biden hentai without needing to generate it automatically through an AI

scotty79 5y ago
I'm sorry. I believe I wasn't direct enough which made you produce metaphor I have no idea how to understand. Let me state my opinion more directly. I'm for developing as much of deep fake technology in the open so that people can internalize that every video they see, every message, every speech should be initially treated as fabricated garbage unrelated to anything that actually happened in reality. Because that's exactly what it is. Until additional data shows up, geolocating, showing it from different angles and such. Even if most people manage to internalize just the first part and assume everything always is fake news, that is still great because that counters propaganda to immense degree. Power of propaganda doesn't come from flooding people with chaos of fakery. It comes from constructing consistent message by whatever means necessary and hammering it into the minds of your audience for months and years while simultaneously isolating them from any material, real or fake that contradicts your vision. Take a look no further than brainwashed Russian citizens and Russian propaganda that is able to successfully influence hundreds of millions without even a shred of deep fake technology for decades. The problem of modern world is not that no one believes the actual truth because it doesn't really matter what most people believe. Only rich influence policy decisions. The problem is that people still believe that there is some truth which makes them super easy to sway to believe what you are saying is true and weaponize by using nothing more than charismatic voice and consistent message crafted to touch the spots in people that remain the same at least since the world war II and most likely from time immemorial. And the "elite" who actually runs this world, will pursue tools of getting the accurate information and telling facts from fiction no matter the technology.
- BlueTemplar 5y ago
  South Park creators have jumped on this occasion : "Sassy Justice with Fred Sassy" (reporting on Deep Fakes) : https://youtube.com/watch?v=9WfZuNceFDM https://youtube.com/watch?v=9WfZuNceFDM

scotty79 5y ago

I'm sorry. I believe I wasn't direct enough which made you produce metaphor I have no idea how to understand. Let me state my opinion more directly. I'm for developing as much of deep fake technology in the open so that people can internalize that every video they see, every message, every speech should be initially treated as fabricated garbage unrelated to anything that actually happened in reality. Because that's exactly what it is. Until additional data shows up, geolocating, showing it from different angles and such. Even if most people manage to internalize just the first part and assume everything always is fake news, that is still great because that counters propaganda to immense degree. Power of propaganda doesn't come from flooding people with chaos of fakery. It comes from constructing consistent message by whatever means necessary and hammering it into the minds of your audience for months and years while simultaneously isolating them from any material, real or fake that contradicts your vision. Take a look no further than brainwashed Russian citizens and Russian propaganda that is able to successfully influence hundreds of millions without even a shred of deep fake technology for decades. The problem of modern world is not that no one believes the actual truth because it doesn't really matter what most people believe. Only rich influence policy decisions. The problem is that people still believe that there is some truth which makes them super easy to sway to believe what you are saying is true and weaponize by using nothing more than charismatic voice and consistent message crafted to touch the spots in people that remain the same at least since the world war II and most likely from time immemorial. And the "elite" who actually runs this world, will pursue tools of getting the accurate information and telling facts from fiction no matter the technology.

BlueTemplar 5y ago
South Park creators have jumped on this occasion : "Sassy Justice with Fred Sassy" (reporting on Deep Fakes) : https://youtube.com/watch?v=9WfZuNceFDM https://youtube.com/watch?v=9WfZuNceFDM