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Armchair theorist as well, but all consciousness aside, it could also be that there's just a simple chemical that makes ants want to climb up (just like some ho
by Aardwolf 5y ago
Armchair theorist as well, but all consciousness aside, it could also be that there's just a simple chemical that makes ants want to climb up (just like some hormones make the human brain want things), so that there's no computation involved, the mushroom might just happen to excrete the right chemical in the right place
- arrosenberg 5y agoThat seems more likely to me too. Imagine a fungus that could provide dopamine directly to the brain when a human host meets a certain condition (e.g. a certain amount of direct sunlight, humidity, wind).
- everhard_ 5y agoAgree, it's more like they're responding to stimuli, could we derive somehow that their genes have evolved some degree of ... intelligence?
- arrosenberg 5y agoEh, I'd say that's a point for debate, but I would argue stochastic survival probability under some prior conditions that haven't changed enough to force further competition.
- monkeybutton 5y agoLike toxoplasmosis?
- dunefox 5y agoI mean, apparently toxoplasmosis or something like it can result in personality changes even in humans.
- stadium 5y agoNot exactly this scenario, but the psilocybe genus produces chemicals very similar to serotonin.
- bdamm 5y agoGetting the ant to clamp onto the underside of a branch or leaf and then stay there until it dies is a bit harder to explain. However I am also inclined to believe there is a localized mechanism at play, such as locating the jaw actuation through connective tissue RNA. Even so, there must be some basic signaling and state detection at play. It's probably the biological equivalent of a music box that just plays the notes it's been fixed to play, but still interesting.