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I'm having a hard time finding proof in that twitter chain, but I was also having a hard time just understanding it. A commenter here dug up https://www.inputm

I'm having a hard time finding proof in that twitter chain, but I was also having a hard time just understanding it. A commenter here dug up https://www.inputmag.com/culture/report-airbnb-owns-ai-tech-that-discriminates-against-sex-workers https://www.inputmag.com/culture/report-airbnb-owns-ai-tech-... so reading between the lines, it appears that they have the capacity to have banned her for whoring but there doesn't appear to be any 'smoking gun' connection. I'm a little torn. I've seen lots of complaints "XYZ banned me for NO REASON", but when it gets dug into it turns out there were lots of reasons, but on the other hand the smokescreen that Door Dash (and other companies!) give themselves by stating vague "violations of our terms of service.." combined with their capacity to actually do this makes it difficult to give them the benefit of the doubt. I don't know what to think, but I figured others might also be looking for proof.

noirscape 5y ago
The person in question here probably didn't get banned for being a sex worker. The actual reason is fairly easily understood by examining the second tweet of the original chain. She tried to order DoorDash for someone in LA that she was fundraising for whilst she herself is in New York City (her bio states she works for the New York University). My guess is that the mismatch of her geolocation versus the place she ordered at triggered an anti-abuse algorithm and disabled the account "just in case". Mind you that she also openly opposed trying to figure anything out from the support (apparently contacting DoorDash' PR account through DMs is "doxxing her to DoorDash", which y'know is weird since she already was a customer at DoorDash) and seems to be golden hammering the reason based on her own professions (when all you have is a hammer, everything starts to look like a nail). For their part, DoorDash has openly said that they don't give a damn to the DailyDot and that her refusal to try and talk with DoorDash is the only real hindrance to them doing something about it: https://www.dailydot.com/debug/dominatrix-banned-from-doordash/ https://www.dailydot.com/debug/dominatrix-banned-from-doorda...
no_butterscotch 5y ago
Related to AirBnB using AI: https://cnsnews.com/commentary/michelle-malkin/michelle-malkin-why-airbnb-banned-me-and-my-hubby-too https://cnsnews.com/commentary/michelle-malkin/michelle-malk.... AirBnB will ban you from using their platform if you attend conferences that are controversial if they can find your name/info.
- burnished 5y ago
  You know, it reaaally weakens your position when you try and sweep "racist, white supremecist, white nationalist organization" under the word 'controversial'. Pineapple on pizza is controversial. A UBI is controversial. White nationalism isn't, it goes with all the social mores we don't allow in public, like defecation. Or is that 'controversial' too?
- mikem170 5y ago
  It's a shame that so many on both sides wold be happy to impose their will on others. It's also a shame that 330 million of us are trying to sort this out through mass media, under the influence of multinational corporations and power addicted politicians. Not working so well. We don't respect each other at these scales.
- cnelsonsic2 5y ago
  "It has come to our attention that you were a keynote speaker for the 2021 American Renaissance Conference earlier this month in Tennessee. Airbnb's community policies prohibit people who are members of or actively associate with known hate groups." IDK, I'd have banned them too.
  - no_butterscotch 5y ago
    Who defines the word hate?
    - burnished 5y ago
      This is sophistry.
  - exfascist 5y ago

noirscape 5y ago

The person in question here probably didn't get banned for being a sex worker. The actual reason is fairly easily understood by examining the second tweet of the original chain. She tried to order DoorDash for someone in LA that she was fundraising for whilst she herself is in New York City (her bio states she works for the New York University). My guess is that the mismatch of her geolocation versus the place she ordered at triggered an anti-abuse algorithm and disabled the account "just in case". Mind you that she also openly opposed trying to figure anything out from the support (apparently contacting DoorDash' PR account through DMs is "doxxing her to DoorDash", which y'know is weird since she already was a customer at DoorDash) and seems to be golden hammering the reason based on her own professions (when all you have is a hammer, everything starts to look like a nail). For their part, DoorDash has openly said that they don't give a damn to the DailyDot and that her refusal to try and talk with DoorDash is the only real hindrance to them doing something about it: https://www.dailydot.com/debug/dominatrix-banned-from-doordash/ https://www.dailydot.com/debug/dominatrix-banned-from-doorda...

no_butterscotch 5y ago

Related to AirBnB using AI: https://cnsnews.com/commentary/michelle-malkin/michelle-malkin-why-airbnb-banned-me-and-my-hubby-too https://cnsnews.com/commentary/michelle-malkin/michelle-malk.... AirBnB will ban you from using their platform if you attend conferences that are controversial if they can find your name/info.

burnished 5y ago
You know, it reaaally weakens your position when you try and sweep "racist, white supremecist, white nationalist organization" under the word 'controversial'. Pineapple on pizza is controversial. A UBI is controversial. White nationalism isn't, it goes with all the social mores we don't allow in public, like defecation. Or is that 'controversial' too?
mikem170 5y ago
It's a shame that so many on both sides wold be happy to impose their will on others. It's also a shame that 330 million of us are trying to sort this out through mass media, under the influence of multinational corporations and power addicted politicians. Not working so well. We don't respect each other at these scales.
cnelsonsic2 5y ago
"It has come to our attention that you were a keynote speaker for the 2021 American Renaissance Conference earlier this month in Tennessee. Airbnb's community policies prohibit people who are members of or actively associate with known hate groups." IDK, I'd have banned them too.
- no_butterscotch 5y ago
  Who defines the word hate?
  - burnished 5y ago
    This is sophistry.
- exfascist 5y ago