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To be fair, the lead dev of graphene os has been crying wolf about stuff like this for ages. For example https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dx7CZ-2Bajg https://www

by dtx1 5y ago

To be fair, the lead dev of graphene os has been crying wolf about stuff like this for ages. For example https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dx7CZ-2Bajg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dx7CZ-2Bajg Now, i really like Graphene OS. I consider my Pixel 3a with Graphene OS one of my, if not my most secure device. And the work they do is great. But man, Daniel Mackay would be well advised to reorganize how he interacts with his community and perhaps take some mental health help, i don't think he's been in good place mentally for quite some time :(

strcat 5y ago
> To be fair, the lead dev of graphene os has been crying wolf about stuff like this for ages. We aren't crying wolf. The abusive behavior has been ongoing since 2018. It wasn't happening in any significant way from 2014 through 2018. It started with the events which led to the creation of CalyxOS in 2018. You're linking to a highly dishonest and abusive video where one of the most prominent abusers tied to CalyxOS spends an hour lying through their teeth and engaging in these highly abusive personal attacks. It's a character assassination campaign which you're participating in yourself > Now, i really like Graphene OS. I consider my Pixel 3a with Graphene OS one of my, if not my most secure device. And the work they do is great. But man, Daniel Mackay would be well advised to reorganize how he interacts with his community and perhaps take some mental health help, i don't think he's been in good place mentally for quite some time :( You're participating in a highly abusive harassment and bullying campaign targeting me. You're spreading fabricated claims and libel about me and are participating in the attempt by Nicolas Merrill (Calyx leader), Techlore and cdesai (CalyxOS lead developer) to portray the abusive behavior which you are yourself demonstration as the delusions of someone mentally ill and crazy. > I consider my Pixel 3a with Graphene OS one of my, if not my most secure device A common tactic from the CalyxOS and Techlore folks engaging in this abusive behavior is to pretend to use GrapheneOS and to do exactly what you're doing. Whether or not you use GrapheneOS does not justify this abusive behavior.
- dtx1 5y ago
  > You're participating in a highly abusive harassment and bullying campaign targeting me. You're spreading fabricated claims and libel about me and are participating in the attempt by Nicolas Merrill (Calyx leader), Techlore and cdesai (CalyxOS lead developer) to portray the abusive behavior which you are yourself demonstration as the delusions of someone mentally ill and crazy. I'm participating in nothing, I barely care about this issue. But these kinds of comments and reactions are guaranteed to cause another storm of abusive behavior against you. I know you think you are 100% right and justified but they are just using your predictable responses to trigger you again and again for their amusement. Enjoy the vicious cycle bro, if you want to escape it, change your reactions, if you don't want to escape it, become their eternal lol cow. I'll leave you with the words of Capatain Picard: "It is possible to commit no mistakes and still lose." [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4A-Ml8YHyM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4A-Ml8YHyM
  - strcat 5y ago
    You're directly participating in the abusive behavior spreading a libellous video with a bunch of fabrications from a drama seeking sociopath on YouTube. You're even using Kiwi Farms language yourself. Try not being an asshole and targeting an open source developer with abuse because you think it's funny.
    - dtx1 5y ago
      Sigh, and here is the problem. I literally do not know who or what "Kiwi Farms" is, if im using "their language" it's not on purpose. Again, I'm not saying everyone else is the good guy and you are the bad guy, what i'm trying to say is that these kinds of responses and threads do not make this continuing issue either disappear or less likely in the future. If your goal is to make Graphene OS more well known through continuing drama, you are successful and sure got me. Should your goal be to reduce further incidents like this, you will not be able to change other people, you can only change your responses to them.
Forbo 5y ago
This feels like a very DARVO type of comment. Trying to maintain vigilance against spammers and gore raids on their Matrix channel is grueling enough, then to have people say "you're doing it wrong" is just insult to injury.
- dtx1 5y ago
  What a laughable response. Daniels' Responses and Twitter Threads and the way he argues obviously invokes more and more flamewars, raids and stressful situations. It's very obvious if you take a little time to look into it, especially the techlore video, that these continuing conflicts are not good for the well being of Daniel himself and the Graphene OS community as a whole. I say this, with genuine respect for his work and with worry about his personal well being: The world isn't gonna change for him and if he want's to escape this situation and enjoy a better quality of life while doing what he obviously loves, he will need to find better ways to cope with these kinds of situations and interactions. It doesn't matter if he is 100% right and he's the white knight fighting the evil matrix raiders and spammers. These Twitter Threads are not going to make these raids any less likely in the future. I worry he's going to end up like terry davis. brilliant programmer, eccentric in his own way and abused as a lol-cow for /g/ and that would be a shame, because graphene OS is pretty sweet.
  - aaaaaaaaata 5y ago
    Did the world change for Linus Torvalds?

by dtx1 5y ago

strcat 5y ago

> To be fair, the lead dev of graphene os has been crying wolf about stuff like this for ages. We aren't crying wolf. The abusive behavior has been ongoing since 2018. It wasn't happening in any significant way from 2014 through 2018. It started with the events which led to the creation of CalyxOS in 2018. You're linking to a highly dishonest and abusive video where one of the most prominent abusers tied to CalyxOS spends an hour lying through their teeth and engaging in these highly abusive personal attacks. It's a character assassination campaign which you're participating in yourself > Now, i really like Graphene OS. I consider my Pixel 3a with Graphene OS one of my, if not my most secure device. And the work they do is great. But man, Daniel Mackay would be well advised to reorganize how he interacts with his community and perhaps take some mental health help, i don't think he's been in good place mentally for quite some time :( You're participating in a highly abusive harassment and bullying campaign targeting me. You're spreading fabricated claims and libel about me and are participating in the attempt by Nicolas Merrill (Calyx leader), Techlore and cdesai (CalyxOS lead developer) to portray the abusive behavior which you are yourself demonstration as the delusions of someone mentally ill and crazy. > I consider my Pixel 3a with Graphene OS one of my, if not my most secure device A common tactic from the CalyxOS and Techlore folks engaging in this abusive behavior is to pretend to use GrapheneOS and to do exactly what you're doing. Whether or not you use GrapheneOS does not justify this abusive behavior.

dtx1 5y ago
> You're participating in a highly abusive harassment and bullying campaign targeting me. You're spreading fabricated claims and libel about me and are participating in the attempt by Nicolas Merrill (Calyx leader), Techlore and cdesai (CalyxOS lead developer) to portray the abusive behavior which you are yourself demonstration as the delusions of someone mentally ill and crazy. I'm participating in nothing, I barely care about this issue. But these kinds of comments and reactions are guaranteed to cause another storm of abusive behavior against you. I know you think you are 100% right and justified but they are just using your predictable responses to trigger you again and again for their amusement. Enjoy the vicious cycle bro, if you want to escape it, change your reactions, if you don't want to escape it, become their eternal lol cow. I'll leave you with the words of Capatain Picard: "It is possible to commit no mistakes and still lose." [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4A-Ml8YHyM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4A-Ml8YHyM
- strcat 5y ago
  You're directly participating in the abusive behavior spreading a libellous video with a bunch of fabrications from a drama seeking sociopath on YouTube. You're even using Kiwi Farms language yourself. Try not being an asshole and targeting an open source developer with abuse because you think it's funny.
  - dtx1 5y ago
    Sigh, and here is the problem. I literally do not know who or what "Kiwi Farms" is, if im using "their language" it's not on purpose. Again, I'm not saying everyone else is the good guy and you are the bad guy, what i'm trying to say is that these kinds of responses and threads do not make this continuing issue either disappear or less likely in the future. If your goal is to make Graphene OS more well known through continuing drama, you are successful and sure got me. Should your goal be to reduce further incidents like this, you will not be able to change other people, you can only change your responses to them.

Forbo 5y ago

This feels like a very DARVO type of comment. Trying to maintain vigilance against spammers and gore raids on their Matrix channel is grueling enough, then to have people say "you're doing it wrong" is just insult to injury.

dtx1 5y ago
What a laughable response. Daniels' Responses and Twitter Threads and the way he argues obviously invokes more and more flamewars, raids and stressful situations. It's very obvious if you take a little time to look into it, especially the techlore video, that these continuing conflicts are not good for the well being of Daniel himself and the Graphene OS community as a whole. I say this, with genuine respect for his work and with worry about his personal well being: The world isn't gonna change for him and if he want's to escape this situation and enjoy a better quality of life while doing what he obviously loves, he will need to find better ways to cope with these kinds of situations and interactions. It doesn't matter if he is 100% right and he's the white knight fighting the evil matrix raiders and spammers. These Twitter Threads are not going to make these raids any less likely in the future. I worry he's going to end up like terry davis. brilliant programmer, eccentric in his own way and abused as a lol-cow for /g/ and that would be a shame, because graphene OS is pretty sweet.
- aaaaaaaaata 5y ago
  Did the world change for Linus Torvalds?