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And here it is: 'wealthy nations will need to contribute financial aid to low-income countries, to address inequities in vulnerability to climate change and to

by an9n 5y ago

And here it is: 'wealthy nations will need to contribute financial aid to low-income countries, to address inequities in vulnerability to climate change and to accelerate the clean-energy transition in a way that benefits all' In other words, TPTB employing as a facade the big global institutions under their control to sprinkle some fake respectability on their plan to enforce drastically reduced living standards on the middle classes, as part of their simulacrum of global communism that will enable the ultra-rich to maintain their hegemony in perpetuity, whilst reducing all others to cattle in their technocratic global slave system. Quelle suprise

scohesc 5y ago
It's so easy to see it when you take a few steps back and look at the constant fear the media's been pushing for almost 30-40 years now - every once in a while there's an article about how "_this_ time it's an emergency!" I swear science is turning more and more corrupted into a substitute for religion for people. We don't have religious faith anymore to guide us and give us comfort, so we're relying on the "experts" that the "higher powers" tell us to listen to. Can't believe in the man in the sky, but we'll believe what the people the media told us were experts have to say!
- EricE 5y ago
  "Trust the men in white coats" "Which men?" "TOP men! Trust us!"
- PoignardAzur 5y ago
  You sound like someone saying "Ever since I've jumped off that 40-stories building, so-called experts have been telling me I would die. Well I've fallen 30 stories so far and I'm perfectly fine, these experts are morons". As for the whole science-as-the-new-religion thing, well, that's just a cheap shot. You're just seeing a lot of people disagreeing with you and going "oh, these people are obviously all brainwashed by the new dominant cult and that's why they're so stupid".
  - scohesc 5y ago
    Maybe I should re-word my original statement - Science has most definitely turned into (or is very similar to) faith-based followings/religions. I'm going to speak from a mostly western, north american viewpoint of the world. Would you not say that there's many many people that don't truly understand the intricacies of what science is and what it's become, but still follow it without asking questions? Academically, I would assume that for the majority of people, science was something you were taught to blindly trust growing up, being told that scientists have your best interests in mind while they spend time finding out everything about the world and coming up with reasons/theories for the way the world works and interacts with itself. The world wouldn't be anything without science, they say. Religion is based on a set of beliefs, followings, teachings, determined and taught/shared by "qualified" individuals like priests/pastors - followers were raised from a young age to follow, internalize, and spread their faith. When you go to church (catholic in this example), you're asked/silently obligated to donate to the church when the collection plate is passed around. You're giving money, and debatably power (in form of money) to the church to keep spreading their beliefs. I think it would be foolish to assume that there weren't rich kings/countries hundred of years ago giving money to the church to influence certain activities/actions through religious decree/law. Today, we have numerous examples of corporations lobbying governmental and scientific institutions to push whatever is the cause de jour. There was corn syrup lobbying in the 2010's and who knows how far back, you had the food pyramid in the 90's that heavily promoted food groups that the USDA itself was subsidizing. There's so many outside influences, blind faith/trust, etc. etc. that I feel comfortable in todays day and age saying that society in general "trusts" science like they would "trust" a religion to keep them safe and alive, and healthy.
PoignardAzur 5y ago
That's... a lot of fancy words to say "These greedy rich people are trying to take the middle class's money again to make us into slaves". And that's just inane. Like, yeah, rich people are greedy, yeah, systemic problems exist, yeah, economic inequality is bad and the influence of the super-rich is a problem. But I don't see how you can go from any of that to "therefore, richer countries shouldn't give aid to poorer countries because that's a trick of the super-rich to make us all into slaves". If nothing else, helping poor countries worldwide develop reduces the power of the super-rich over society, since it means they have fewer super-poor exploited populations to draw from and need to make more concessions to workers instead of just relocating to some poorer place.

by an9n 5y ago

scohesc 5y ago

It's so easy to see it when you take a few steps back and look at the constant fear the media's been pushing for almost 30-40 years now - every once in a while there's an article about how "_this_ time it's an emergency!" I swear science is turning more and more corrupted into a substitute for religion for people. We don't have religious faith anymore to guide us and give us comfort, so we're relying on the "experts" that the "higher powers" tell us to listen to. Can't believe in the man in the sky, but we'll believe what the people the media told us were experts have to say!

EricE 5y ago
"Trust the men in white coats" "Which men?" "TOP men! Trust us!"
PoignardAzur 5y ago
You sound like someone saying "Ever since I've jumped off that 40-stories building, so-called experts have been telling me I would die. Well I've fallen 30 stories so far and I'm perfectly fine, these experts are morons". As for the whole science-as-the-new-religion thing, well, that's just a cheap shot. You're just seeing a lot of people disagreeing with you and going "oh, these people are obviously all brainwashed by the new dominant cult and that's why they're so stupid".
- scohesc 5y ago
  Maybe I should re-word my original statement - Science has most definitely turned into (or is very similar to) faith-based followings/religions. I'm going to speak from a mostly western, north american viewpoint of the world. Would you not say that there's many many people that don't truly understand the intricacies of what science is and what it's become, but still follow it without asking questions? Academically, I would assume that for the majority of people, science was something you were taught to blindly trust growing up, being told that scientists have your best interests in mind while they spend time finding out everything about the world and coming up with reasons/theories for the way the world works and interacts with itself. The world wouldn't be anything without science, they say. Religion is based on a set of beliefs, followings, teachings, determined and taught/shared by "qualified" individuals like priests/pastors - followers were raised from a young age to follow, internalize, and spread their faith. When you go to church (catholic in this example), you're asked/silently obligated to donate to the church when the collection plate is passed around. You're giving money, and debatably power (in form of money) to the church to keep spreading their beliefs. I think it would be foolish to assume that there weren't rich kings/countries hundred of years ago giving money to the church to influence certain activities/actions through religious decree/law. Today, we have numerous examples of corporations lobbying governmental and scientific institutions to push whatever is the cause de jour. There was corn syrup lobbying in the 2010's and who knows how far back, you had the food pyramid in the 90's that heavily promoted food groups that the USDA itself was subsidizing. There's so many outside influences, blind faith/trust, etc. etc. that I feel comfortable in todays day and age saying that society in general "trusts" science like they would "trust" a religion to keep them safe and alive, and healthy.

PoignardAzur 5y ago

That's... a lot of fancy words to say "These greedy rich people are trying to take the middle class's money again to make us into slaves". And that's just inane. Like, yeah, rich people are greedy, yeah, systemic problems exist, yeah, economic inequality is bad and the influence of the super-rich is a problem. But I don't see how you can go from any of that to "therefore, richer countries shouldn't give aid to poorer countries because that's a trick of the super-rich to make us all into slaves". If nothing else, helping poor countries worldwide develop reduces the power of the super-rich over society, since it means they have fewer super-poor exploited populations to draw from and need to make more concessions to workers instead of just relocating to some poorer place.