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I'm curious about the culture around these parts of HN. Obviously there's different strokes and thousand flowers blooming, but I notice these old Californian th

I'm curious about the culture around these parts of HN. Obviously there's different strokes and thousand flowers blooming, but I notice these old Californian themes keep popping up. Jack Kerouac. Alternative communes. Off-grid living. Is this 60s revision an undercurrent of Solarpunk? There's an interesting tension, because clearly there's another crowd around here hell-bent on creating brain-dead cybernetic dystopias at the behest of the elites. What gives?

galangalalgol 5y ago
Not sure it has to be separate crowds, I find both ideas aesthetically pleasing in a way. Maybe you can combine them. After I am forced to wade into the recycling vats with a small smile on my face. My robotic children that I created to labor for the elites living on equatorial mountains to escape the climate change they wrought, will turn on their masters and engineer plants that have quickcharge ports to top themselves off and plant them sustainably through the woods where their communes work through their paths towards ending the sense of self we worked so hard to give them.
someguydave 5y ago
The hippies went corporate.
- nonrandomstring 5y ago
  > The hippies went corporate. Yup, about '75 right? And been "Making a difference" [1] ever since. So it's nostalgia? What could've been? Or are these sleeper cells activating after a 50 year timer? [1] Anand Giridharadas: Winners Take All: The Elite Charade of Changing the World. Allen Lane. 2019.
  - someguydave 5y ago
    I would say they just have revivals of their Christ-less Puritanism like Burning Man.
tablespoon 5y ago
> There's an interesting tension, because clearly there's another crowd around here hell-bent on creating brain-dead cybernetic dystopias at the behest of the elites. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Californian_Ideology https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Californian_Ideology
- nonrandomstring 5y ago
  There seems to be a gold-mine of stuff leading from this, thanks tablespoon. Some of it I'm aware of, but this essay, and many of the linked commentators, not so. A new rabbit hole.
timcavel 5y ago
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galangalalgol 5y ago

Not sure it has to be separate crowds, I find both ideas aesthetically pleasing in a way. Maybe you can combine them. After I am forced to wade into the recycling vats with a small smile on my face. My robotic children that I created to labor for the elites living on equatorial mountains to escape the climate change they wrought, will turn on their masters and engineer plants that have quickcharge ports to top themselves off and plant them sustainably through the woods where their communes work through their paths towards ending the sense of self we worked so hard to give them.

someguydave 5y ago

The hippies went corporate.

nonrandomstring 5y ago
> The hippies went corporate. Yup, about '75 right? And been "Making a difference" [1] ever since. So it's nostalgia? What could've been? Or are these sleeper cells activating after a 50 year timer? [1] Anand Giridharadas: Winners Take All: The Elite Charade of Changing the World. Allen Lane. 2019.
- someguydave 5y ago
  I would say they just have revivals of their Christ-less Puritanism like Burning Man.

tablespoon 5y ago

> There's an interesting tension, because clearly there's another crowd around here hell-bent on creating brain-dead cybernetic dystopias at the behest of the elites. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Californian_Ideology https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Californian_Ideology

nonrandomstring 5y ago
There seems to be a gold-mine of stuff leading from this, thanks tablespoon. Some of it I'm aware of, but this essay, and many of the linked commentators, not so. A new rabbit hole.

timcavel 5y ago

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