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Why is it even a question? We already know that covid vaccine does not protect from infection. It reduces chance of severe disease and death however, therefore

by NoPie 5y ago

Why is it even a question? We already know that covid vaccine does not protect from infection. It reduces chance of severe disease and death however, therefore it is a good deal. Also, some countries failed to fully vaccinate all elderly who are most at risk. If even 10% of elderly are not vaccinated, their cases will disproportionately cause high numbers of deaths from or with covid. Hongkong had this the peak that overtook all countries because of that (80+ y.o. had less than 70% vaccination coverage).

h2odragon 5y ago
> covid vaccine does not protect from infection The rest of the world didn't change the definitions when the CDC did. They may, foolishly, expect treatments that worked.
- CogitoCogito 5y ago
  > The rest of the world didn't change the definitions when the CDC did. They may, foolishly, expect treatments that worked. I'm pretty sure no vaccine in history has ever protected against infection. How would that even work? It's not like vaccines can possibly keep the pathogens out of your body. They can only help your body respond to the pathogens once they've infected you.
  - Pigalowda 5y ago
    I know what you mean but exposure to a virus is different than being “infected”. We’re exposed every day to many different viruses and other pathogens which are destroyed by our immune system. Infection implies that the pathogen is successfully replicating (symptomatic or not).
    - CogitoCogito 5y ago
      > I know what you mean but exposure to a virus is different than being “infected”. We’re exposed every day to many different viruses and other pathogens which are destroyed by our immune system. Infection implies that the pathogen is successfully replicating (symptomatic or not). How do you know previous vaccines prevented successful replication? They could have prevented disease and/or spread without preventing successful replication as long as they kept replication low enough (where "low enough" depends on the virus, the immune system, etc.). Maybe the poster should have said "symptomatic infection" instead of just "infection". (Though even then it's not true. Many vaccines do not entirely prevent symptomatic infection. The flu vaccine is the most obvious example.)

by NoPie 5y ago

h2odragon 5y ago

> covid vaccine does not protect from infection The rest of the world didn't change the definitions when the CDC did. They may, foolishly, expect treatments that worked.

CogitoCogito 5y ago
> The rest of the world didn't change the definitions when the CDC did. They may, foolishly, expect treatments that worked. I'm pretty sure no vaccine in history has ever protected against infection. How would that even work? It's not like vaccines can possibly keep the pathogens out of your body. They can only help your body respond to the pathogens once they've infected you.
- Pigalowda 5y ago
  I know what you mean but exposure to a virus is different than being “infected”. We’re exposed every day to many different viruses and other pathogens which are destroyed by our immune system. Infection implies that the pathogen is successfully replicating (symptomatic or not).
  - CogitoCogito 5y ago
    > I know what you mean but exposure to a virus is different than being “infected”. We’re exposed every day to many different viruses and other pathogens which are destroyed by our immune system. Infection implies that the pathogen is successfully replicating (symptomatic or not). How do you know previous vaccines prevented successful replication? They could have prevented disease and/or spread without preventing successful replication as long as they kept replication low enough (where "low enough" depends on the virus, the immune system, etc.). Maybe the poster should have said "symptomatic infection" instead of just "infection". (Though even then it's not true. Many vaccines do not entirely prevent symptomatic infection. The flu vaccine is the most obvious example.)