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Colors. Lots of them.

by icelancer 5y ago

hypertele-Xii 5y ago
Black, white, magenta, and orange. That's a lot to you? It's very few to me.
- enriquto 5y ago
  you only need two colors: background and foreground
  - hypertele-Xii 5y ago
    That would be the absolute extreme of minimalism, yes. But it's a never-ending rabbit hole. I don't really need a website, either. So the absolute extreme minimalist website is one that doesn't exist. To me, colors are important. I'm a visual artist. The minimal amount of colors to me is an additional two to your two. It's not arbitrary, I didn't just go crazy with colors, I settled on exactly four because I couldn't reduce it to three.
    - iamacyborg 5y ago
      > So the absolute extreme minimalist website is one that doesn't exist. This is a fundamental misunderstanding of what minimalistic design means. If you've identified that you need a website, minimalism would be paring that down to the core essentials and ensuring it has everything it needs, but nothing more, to suit its purpose.
      - hypertele-Xii 5y ago
        That's exactly what I've done.
        carrolldunham 5y ago
        Why does it need a background image?
        hypertele-Xii 5y ago
        Because the artist requires it. Websites exist to serve content. The author of this page demanded it have a background image. Here's another page that doesn't: https://hypertele.fi/b40bfc44ff8a22df https://hypertele.fi/b40bfc44ff8a22df
        antiframe 5y ago
        That subtle background gradient is lovely. I like how it adds a frame to the text without distracting from it. It evokes the right vibe, I think. That's a design element that serves the functionality well and doesn't feel superfluous at all. But the image on the colophon page I'm less excited about. It gets in the way and feels unnecessary.
- chanc3e 5y ago
  Yourself and Gwern both need to learn how typography works before you declare yourselves arbiters of digital design. On the plus side, your site is friendly in reader view. • Never justify text in digital • Never right align long form in digital • Both need to learn balance between type size and line height
  - creata 5y ago
    From the article, it looks like Gwern, at least, thought quite a lot about text justification --- see the "Abandoned" section --- so the "learn how typography works" comment seems a bit unfair.
    - chanc3e 5y ago
      Agreed. I should have said ‘understand’. My point being that applying rules learnt from hundreds of years of literary culture and printing do not 1:1 translate into digital. Justified copy is as much about saving paper as it is about any formality/legibility. It really has no place in long form digital space where space is infinite. Type designers like consistent and even rhythm between the ink and page. Rivers of white and large gaps between words give the ick.

Colors. Lots of them.

hypertele-Xii 5y ago

Black, white, magenta, and orange. That's a lot to you? It's very few to me.

enriquto 5y ago
you only need two colors: background and foreground
- hypertele-Xii 5y ago
  That would be the absolute extreme of minimalism, yes. But it's a never-ending rabbit hole. I don't really need a website, either. So the absolute extreme minimalist website is one that doesn't exist. To me, colors are important. I'm a visual artist. The minimal amount of colors to me is an additional two to your two. It's not arbitrary, I didn't just go crazy with colors, I settled on exactly four because I couldn't reduce it to three.
  - iamacyborg 5y ago
    > So the absolute extreme minimalist website is one that doesn't exist. This is a fundamental misunderstanding of what minimalistic design means. If you've identified that you need a website, minimalism would be paring that down to the core essentials and ensuring it has everything it needs, but nothing more, to suit its purpose.
    - hypertele-Xii 5y ago
      That's exactly what I've done.
      - carrolldunham 5y ago
        Why does it need a background image?
        hypertele-Xii 5y ago
        Because the artist requires it. Websites exist to serve content. The author of this page demanded it have a background image. Here's another page that doesn't: https://hypertele.fi/b40bfc44ff8a22df https://hypertele.fi/b40bfc44ff8a22df
        antiframe 5y ago
        That subtle background gradient is lovely. I like how it adds a frame to the text without distracting from it. It evokes the right vibe, I think. That's a design element that serves the functionality well and doesn't feel superfluous at all. But the image on the colophon page I'm less excited about. It gets in the way and feels unnecessary.
chanc3e 5y ago
Yourself and Gwern both need to learn how typography works before you declare yourselves arbiters of digital design. On the plus side, your site is friendly in reader view. • Never justify text in digital • Never right align long form in digital • Both need to learn balance between type size and line height
- creata 5y ago
  From the article, it looks like Gwern, at least, thought quite a lot about text justification --- see the "Abandoned" section --- so the "learn how typography works" comment seems a bit unfair.
  - chanc3e 5y ago
    Agreed. I should have said ‘understand’. My point being that applying rules learnt from hundreds of years of literary culture and printing do not 1:1 translate into digital. Justified copy is as much about saving paper as it is about any formality/legibility. It really has no place in long form digital space where space is infinite. Type designers like consistent and even rhythm between the ink and page. Rivers of white and large gaps between words give the ick.