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There is a reason why it is so worry about dna and blood scan in hk; silly you may say. But given political crime can also be death sentence and but if you wer

There is a reason why it is so worry about dna and blood scan in hk; silly you may say. But given political crime can also be death sentence and but if you were just a good donor to the leader in need and 1/2 likely you are opposite to them, that will be .. sorry to say that … kill two birds with one donation … Do they have moral in Hans culture in spite of those kind talk of c, b and t? No I think. Given it is state sanction, it is just evil state and evil culture and evil race, unless some come up to object to these. Or just up to say it is fake news, west propaganda like Russia. How many people has to die before we wake up to an evil 10x than Russia.

_tik_ 5y ago
A Non-PRC Han Chinese Race here. Can you explain more how this related to Han Race or Culture? And what should I do so I can meet your superior-high morality standard culture and godly race? I live outside China and don't speak Mandarin. Thanks
yike321123 5y ago
Let's not resort to personal attacks. To be honest the majority of chinese are not even Han. It's a generic label taken on by the Chinese to better create a nationalistic ideal in an ethnically diverse region. Especially so when the real Han people for the most part do not exist in China.
- chews 5y ago
  It’s not a personal attack. The human is expressing the truth of a quite legal grave risk to dna based identification by an authoritarian government that kills people to harvest their organs.
- allisdust 5y ago
  What difference does it make. They are still happily booking their reservations for organ transplants from their fellow Chinese citizens. The whole transplants from prisoners are stopped in 2015 news must be pure BS as apparently these transplants can be 'booked' for a specific week or date unlike most nations where you have to go on a waitlist for someone to die accidentally. People from different nations go there for these transplants as part 'medical tourism' apparently. A truly evil government and people (who seem okay with the whole thing).
  - fqye 5y ago
    Care to share a link where I can book an organ transplant tour in China?
fqye 5y ago
- detaro 5y ago
  The article clearly states that machine translation was used to for identification of cases that were then reviewed, involving native-speakers with clinical knowledge.
  - fqye 5y ago
    I admit that I stopped reading further when I saw that line. Still in the summary: These two apparently disparate topics converge in a unique case: the intimate involvement of transplant surgeons in China in the execution of prisoners via the procurement of organs. We use computational text analysis to conduct a forensic review of 2838 papers drawn from a dataset of 124 770 Chinese-language transplant publications. We find evidence in 71 of these reports, spread nationwide, that brain death could not have properly been declared. In these cases, the removal of the heart during organ procurement must have been the proximate cause of the donor's death. Because these organ donors could only have been prisoners, our findings strongly suggest that physicians in the People's Republic of China have participated in executions by organ removal. -- It is 71 reports out of 2838 reports. And the reports themselves could have reliability issues. And the judgement of brain death has always been controversial. 71 out of 2838 is just 2.5% that is subject to question.
    - detaro 5y ago
      So now your complaint is that the summary is transparent about the numbers? That the paper exists at all? ...? Also, ironic how you break the guidelines by "And did you read the report?" and then admit you didn't read it yourself.
      - fqye 5y ago
        No. My complaint is that the study method is fundamentally unreliable. And if we accept that the reports are reliable, and analysis is reliable, 2.5% of all brain dead reports are questionable don't sound suspicious at all.
kwere 5y ago
its more like a patrimonialism vs legalism conflict. Patrimonialism is a form of coservatorism based on Confucius while Legalism is a "the end justify all means", a no morality philosophy for the state growth. The CCP took the worst aspects of these two philosophies

_tik_ 5y ago

A Non-PRC Han Chinese Race here. Can you explain more how this related to Han Race or Culture? And what should I do so I can meet your superior-high morality standard culture and godly race? I live outside China and don't speak Mandarin. Thanks

yike321123 5y ago

Let's not resort to personal attacks. To be honest the majority of chinese are not even Han. It's a generic label taken on by the Chinese to better create a nationalistic ideal in an ethnically diverse region. Especially so when the real Han people for the most part do not exist in China.

chews 5y ago
It’s not a personal attack. The human is expressing the truth of a quite legal grave risk to dna based identification by an authoritarian government that kills people to harvest their organs.
allisdust 5y ago
What difference does it make. They are still happily booking their reservations for organ transplants from their fellow Chinese citizens. The whole transplants from prisoners are stopped in 2015 news must be pure BS as apparently these transplants can be 'booked' for a specific week or date unlike most nations where you have to go on a waitlist for someone to die accidentally. People from different nations go there for these transplants as part 'medical tourism' apparently. A truly evil government and people (who seem okay with the whole thing).
- fqye 5y ago
  Care to share a link where I can book an organ transplant tour in China?

fqye 5y ago

detaro 5y ago
The article clearly states that machine translation was used to for identification of cases that were then reviewed, involving native-speakers with clinical knowledge.
- fqye 5y ago
  I admit that I stopped reading further when I saw that line. Still in the summary: These two apparently disparate topics converge in a unique case: the intimate involvement of transplant surgeons in China in the execution of prisoners via the procurement of organs. We use computational text analysis to conduct a forensic review of 2838 papers drawn from a dataset of 124 770 Chinese-language transplant publications. We find evidence in 71 of these reports, spread nationwide, that brain death could not have properly been declared. In these cases, the removal of the heart during organ procurement must have been the proximate cause of the donor's death. Because these organ donors could only have been prisoners, our findings strongly suggest that physicians in the People's Republic of China have participated in executions by organ removal. -- It is 71 reports out of 2838 reports. And the reports themselves could have reliability issues. And the judgement of brain death has always been controversial. 71 out of 2838 is just 2.5% that is subject to question.
  - detaro 5y ago
    So now your complaint is that the summary is transparent about the numbers? That the paper exists at all? ...? Also, ironic how you break the guidelines by "And did you read the report?" and then admit you didn't read it yourself.
    - fqye 5y ago
      No. My complaint is that the study method is fundamentally unreliable. And if we accept that the reports are reliable, and analysis is reliable, 2.5% of all brain dead reports are questionable don't sound suspicious at all.

kwere 5y ago

its more like a patrimonialism vs legalism conflict. Patrimonialism is a form of coservatorism based on Confucius while Legalism is a "the end justify all means", a no morality philosophy for the state growth. The CCP took the worst aspects of these two philosophies