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> YouTube (where the eyeballs willing to consume intellectual material are). Whyyyyyyyyy?! Seriously I'm curious, what happened? Do intellectuals (whatever th

> YouTube (where the eyeballs willing to consume intellectual material are). Whyyyyyyyyy?! Seriously I'm curious, what happened? Do intellectuals (whatever that means) really not prefer reading any more? A desire for Podcasts/audiobooks I can understand, as someone who occasionally has to drive places, but video?

danuker 5y ago
The problem with text as far as I see is discoverability. Google promotes YouTube videos, but the text sites I've seen ranked are just garbage like "7 ways to clean your sink". And video is a more addictive medium.
- eimrine 5y ago
  If you are doing some researches, Google almost never is your friend. Alphabet/Google/Youtube are not interested in moving science forward, their work is to pump your attention with their ads. Your friends are: torrents which are storing some books, sci-hub for free access to whitepapers, github for having some free software. So sorry that free access to whitepapers is less legal than advertisement of some scams like some kind of "investments". > And video is a more addictive medium. IMHO it is not about video but about smartphones. They are too optimized for consuming ads instead of sciences. For example, it is way more handy to watch videos while constantly being interrupted by social networks than to silent reading if you are already taking a smartphone in your hands.
bckr 5y ago
I think "intellectuals" are willing to read books. I think videos are the best way to consume content in ~20 minutes.
- sideshowb 5y ago
  But isn't reading a preferable way to consume the same content in ~2 minutes?
  - bckr 5y ago
    hmm, I'm not sure about that. I think that good videos add something on top of the raw script. Visuals, body language, sound effects and music, timing,... That's just for the kinds of videos where the bulk of information is in the script, which excludes things like videos about music production or the like. Maybe if you spend 20 minutes reading a book, there's going to be a lot of interleaved information: kind of repetition, but with change, so that you really get a good feeling for the core ideas. A video that would take the same amount of time to watch might not have the same density of language (and I'm not even sure what the ratio would be: i don't think it's 10X, as you implied)--well, maybe it achieves a similar effect, that of increasing comprehension, not by repetition or extra examples, but by the non-linguistic information I listed above. The 2 minute article just doesn't have the same sticking power.
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  - rjh29 5y ago
    I agree, but we appear to be in the minority. I find videos unengaging personally.
abainbridge 5y ago
I feel that you can assign a separate IQ-like score to many different components of human intelligence. I score badly on book comprehension relative to other components. I find it easier to concentrate for an hour or two on a video than a book. I'm probably slightly dyslexic or something. At university I made sure I never missed a lecture but hardly ever read a book. I did above averagely well. This is a disadvantage though. I have friends who can read books in a couple of hours and absorb the content. I'd have to sit through more hours of video to get the same content, even watching the videos at 2x speed. Wild speculation: being intellectual used to require being good at book comprehension. Maybe only 10% of the population are good at that. Maybe some of the remaining 90% are still clever. If so, video content could allow those book-comprehension-limited people to become intellectual. That'd be nice.
- eimrine 5y ago
  > I find it easier to concentrate for an hour or two on a video than a book. That is because video does not requires you to concentrate. Imagine a book which is required to be read in 1x or 1.25x or 1.5x or 2x only. Pretty impossible to read, isn't it? You know, some paragraphs may require several hours to be read. Video just doesn't support to be consumed at different speeds per paragraph.
  - magic123_ 5y ago
    How can you seriously say "video does not requires you to concentrate". I'm genuinely curious as to why you would think this is true.
    - posed 5y ago
      While reading you're more prone to analyze and think about the subject, while videos are sort of mechanized, in which generally people don't pause and reflect on what's being said.
    - eimrine 5y ago
      > "video does not requires you to concentrate" My English is not enough eloquent yet, so I share my anecdotal evidence. Some sentences in books is not understandable if reading only once, and we usually do not go to next one if the previous has been not understood. It is OK to read a sentence 5 times and to read another 2 places in previous parts of a book in order to understand that sentence. Going to a special place from previous parts of lecture might be a pain because of needness to re-listen some extra materials. While watching video it is too easy to skip that hard sentences especially if professor is too charismatic to let us feel the needness to stop his lecture for a moment in order to think. And it is too hard to re-listen only the part is needed for re-listening, like when you can not parse one word (0.5 seconds long), so you press backwards and you realize that you need to relisten extra 4.5 seconds each re-reading. That circumstances leads us to just keep listening while the pyramid of non-understanding actually grows on.
biztos 5y ago
YouTube has quite good discovery (for me anyway) of related content. Some of it is highly produced. In the best case it’s also more compelling to watch the delivery. And finally, I often go to YouTube for something specific, like say researching a camera, and as long as I’m already there I catch a few short videos on this or that idea. I still read magazines (online because of where I live) and a few blogs and listen to maybe half a dozen podcasts regularly, but unless you show up on one of them, you’re much more likely to cross my radar on YouTube. +1 for writing and also doing some YT videos, also +1 for interviews, and if you have time and a pleasant voice the. consider doing a podcast.
HuwFulcher 5y ago
Why is it hard to believe that some consume information more effectively through video than text? I find it particularly useful to be able to watch/listen to a video on a topic when I have chores to do around the house that prevent me from sitting and reading a book. I suppose an argument could be made that reading is objectively better than watching something but watching something is closer to having a conversation with someone which is (I think) the best way to consume and understand information.
rjh29 5y ago
I don't get it either. I'd rather read an information-dense 5-10 minute article than watch a 30 minute video. The way youtube videos try to engage you with music and animations, and the intonation of the speakers, is uncomfortable for me. I accept that's a minority view though.
newbamboo 5y ago
Because attending lectures in person is anachronistic.
tastyfreeze 5y ago
Monkey see, monkey do. For physical skills, watching somebody do it while they explain why they are doing it that way is much more illuminating that text alone. For strictly intellectual skills I find short introductory lectures on YouTube a great way to survey a topic. For a topic I know nothing about I find YT great place to find which direction is most interesting to pursue.
burntoutfire 5y ago
Spoken word was the original form of communication for "intellectuals". (e.g. Sokrates was famously against writting things down).
egads 5y ago
I've been reading Stolen Focus by Johann Hari and one of the points he makes is that there actually is a general decline in the ability to focus enough to enjoy reading books, even amongst educated and intellectual people. A lot of the blame gets put on the usual suspects (smartphones, social media, etc.), but there are a lot of factors like the stressful and distracted nature of our work environments, our diets, our sleep patterns, pollution, etc. that may genuinely be contributing to a increased inability to focus enough to disappear into a book.

danuker 5y ago

The problem with text as far as I see is discoverability. Google promotes YouTube videos, but the text sites I've seen ranked are just garbage like "7 ways to clean your sink". And video is a more addictive medium.

eimrine 5y ago
If you are doing some researches, Google almost never is your friend. Alphabet/Google/Youtube are not interested in moving science forward, their work is to pump your attention with their ads. Your friends are: torrents which are storing some books, sci-hub for free access to whitepapers, github for having some free software. So sorry that free access to whitepapers is less legal than advertisement of some scams like some kind of "investments". > And video is a more addictive medium. IMHO it is not about video but about smartphones. They are too optimized for consuming ads instead of sciences. For example, it is way more handy to watch videos while constantly being interrupted by social networks than to silent reading if you are already taking a smartphone in your hands.

bckr 5y ago

I think "intellectuals" are willing to read books. I think videos are the best way to consume content in ~20 minutes.

sideshowb 5y ago
But isn't reading a preferable way to consume the same content in ~2 minutes?
- bckr 5y ago
  hmm, I'm not sure about that. I think that good videos add something on top of the raw script. Visuals, body language, sound effects and music, timing,... That's just for the kinds of videos where the bulk of information is in the script, which excludes things like videos about music production or the like. Maybe if you spend 20 minutes reading a book, there's going to be a lot of interleaved information: kind of repetition, but with change, so that you really get a good feeling for the core ideas. A video that would take the same amount of time to watch might not have the same density of language (and I'm not even sure what the ratio would be: i don't think it's 10X, as you implied)--well, maybe it achieves a similar effect, that of increasing comprehension, not by repetition or extra examples, but by the non-linguistic information I listed above. The 2 minute article just doesn't have the same sticking power.
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- rjh29 5y ago
  I agree, but we appear to be in the minority. I find videos unengaging personally.

abainbridge 5y ago

I feel that you can assign a separate IQ-like score to many different components of human intelligence. I score badly on book comprehension relative to other components. I find it easier to concentrate for an hour or two on a video than a book. I'm probably slightly dyslexic or something. At university I made sure I never missed a lecture but hardly ever read a book. I did above averagely well. This is a disadvantage though. I have friends who can read books in a couple of hours and absorb the content. I'd have to sit through more hours of video to get the same content, even watching the videos at 2x speed. Wild speculation: being intellectual used to require being good at book comprehension. Maybe only 10% of the population are good at that. Maybe some of the remaining 90% are still clever. If so, video content could allow those book-comprehension-limited people to become intellectual. That'd be nice.

eimrine 5y ago
> I find it easier to concentrate for an hour or two on a video than a book. That is because video does not requires you to concentrate. Imagine a book which is required to be read in 1x or 1.25x or 1.5x or 2x only. Pretty impossible to read, isn't it? You know, some paragraphs may require several hours to be read. Video just doesn't support to be consumed at different speeds per paragraph.
- magic123_ 5y ago
  How can you seriously say "video does not requires you to concentrate". I'm genuinely curious as to why you would think this is true.
  - posed 5y ago
    While reading you're more prone to analyze and think about the subject, while videos are sort of mechanized, in which generally people don't pause and reflect on what's being said.
  - eimrine 5y ago
    > "video does not requires you to concentrate" My English is not enough eloquent yet, so I share my anecdotal evidence. Some sentences in books is not understandable if reading only once, and we usually do not go to next one if the previous has been not understood. It is OK to read a sentence 5 times and to read another 2 places in previous parts of a book in order to understand that sentence. Going to a special place from previous parts of lecture might be a pain because of needness to re-listen some extra materials. While watching video it is too easy to skip that hard sentences especially if professor is too charismatic to let us feel the needness to stop his lecture for a moment in order to think. And it is too hard to re-listen only the part is needed for re-listening, like when you can not parse one word (0.5 seconds long), so you press backwards and you realize that you need to relisten extra 4.5 seconds each re-reading. That circumstances leads us to just keep listening while the pyramid of non-understanding actually grows on.

biztos 5y ago

YouTube has quite good discovery (for me anyway) of related content. Some of it is highly produced. In the best case it’s also more compelling to watch the delivery. And finally, I often go to YouTube for something specific, like say researching a camera, and as long as I’m already there I catch a few short videos on this or that idea. I still read magazines (online because of where I live) and a few blogs and listen to maybe half a dozen podcasts regularly, but unless you show up on one of them, you’re much more likely to cross my radar on YouTube. +1 for writing and also doing some YT videos, also +1 for interviews, and if you have time and a pleasant voice the. consider doing a podcast.

HuwFulcher 5y ago

Why is it hard to believe that some consume information more effectively through video than text? I find it particularly useful to be able to watch/listen to a video on a topic when I have chores to do around the house that prevent me from sitting and reading a book. I suppose an argument could be made that reading is objectively better than watching something but watching something is closer to having a conversation with someone which is (I think) the best way to consume and understand information.

rjh29 5y ago

I don't get it either. I'd rather read an information-dense 5-10 minute article than watch a 30 minute video. The way youtube videos try to engage you with music and animations, and the intonation of the speakers, is uncomfortable for me. I accept that's a minority view though.

newbamboo 5y ago

Because attending lectures in person is anachronistic.

tastyfreeze 5y ago

Monkey see, monkey do. For physical skills, watching somebody do it while they explain why they are doing it that way is much more illuminating that text alone. For strictly intellectual skills I find short introductory lectures on YouTube a great way to survey a topic. For a topic I know nothing about I find YT great place to find which direction is most interesting to pursue.

burntoutfire 5y ago

Spoken word was the original form of communication for "intellectuals". (e.g. Sokrates was famously against writting things down).

egads 5y ago

I've been reading Stolen Focus by Johann Hari and one of the points he makes is that there actually is a general decline in the ability to focus enough to enjoy reading books, even amongst educated and intellectual people. A lot of the blame gets put on the usual suspects (smartphones, social media, etc.), but there are a lot of factors like the stressful and distracted nature of our work environments, our diets, our sleep patterns, pollution, etc. that may genuinely be contributing to a increased inability to focus enough to disappear into a book.