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FWIW, I have a close friend who worked on Twitter's "Health" team whose job at one point was building mini games for the support/moderation staff to play during

FWIW, I have a close friend who worked on Twitter's "Health" team whose job at one point was building mini games for the support/moderation staff to play during company mandated breaks in between looking at racist tweets and CP. He coasted for a while then moved onto a job with more work. This is entirely anecdotal, but from the little I know from his couple months there, Twitter has no idea what to do with the huge amount of engineers they employ. This is by no means an endorsement of Musk, but the company could use some new direction I think.

http-teapot 5y ago
I am an ex-Twitter engineer with long tenure. You are sharing hearsay. It's not worth very much.
- InCityDreams 5y ago
  So....tell us the truth.
  - http-teapot 5y ago
    At the scale of a company like Twitter, my point of view ain’t worth much either and pretending to hold the truth would be pretentious.
    - jchw 5y ago
      While I understand what you’re getting at, this is basically pointless, because nobody is going to accept hand wavey “you can never know, so don’t even try!”-type answers. Even if that is the best way to go.
      - wussboy 5y ago
        I’m not accusing GP of this necessarily, but quite often the view “since we can’t know everything, we can’t know anything” is considered wisdom. To the GP: we all understand that your experience isn’t the same experience of everyone, but it is AN experience, and would be useful to us who don’t have any experience.
        formerkrogeremp 5y ago
        "All models are wrong. Some models are useful."
    - kmonsen 5y ago
      There is a difference between the truth and a truth. It wouldn't be pretentious to share something of your story and how you saw it in the larger picture.
      - http-teapot 5y ago
        That’s fair but disinformation and the lack of actions against it was part of why I left Twitter. As such, I feel strongly about my experience not being interpreted as the truth or that a significant portion of the company shares the same views as I do. I feel like public discourse has increasingly been more and more polarizing and anecdotes and hearsay are being leveraged to create further divisions.
        kmonsen 5y ago
        I can certainly share your concern here, but not sure what can be done about this. Since you probably have done more thinking in this space, what are some things you think are possible?
- deleted 5y ago
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- honkdaddy 5y ago
  Which part is hearsay?
codeisawesome 5y ago
That seems like an actually valuable, human thing to work on vs the garbage many devs find themselves working on. Mini games can also be super engaging to build and are a showcase for creativity… I’m really not seeing the problem.
- teen 5y ago
  Get them a steam account? It's cheaper
  - env123 5y ago
- heavenlyblue 5y ago
  They could just give support staff a proper break and let them do whatever they want with that break (including playing the games they want to play if they deem necessary)
tharne 5y ago
> This is entirely anecdotal, but from the little I know from his couple months there, Twitter has no idea what to do with the huge amount of engineers they employ. I wonder why I keep getting LinkedIn and email notifications about engineering jobs at Twitter.

http-teapot 5y ago

I am an ex-Twitter engineer with long tenure. You are sharing hearsay. It's not worth very much.

InCityDreams 5y ago
So....tell us the truth.
- http-teapot 5y ago
  At the scale of a company like Twitter, my point of view ain’t worth much either and pretending to hold the truth would be pretentious.
  - jchw 5y ago
    While I understand what you’re getting at, this is basically pointless, because nobody is going to accept hand wavey “you can never know, so don’t even try!”-type answers. Even if that is the best way to go.
    - wussboy 5y ago
      I’m not accusing GP of this necessarily, but quite often the view “since we can’t know everything, we can’t know anything” is considered wisdom. To the GP: we all understand that your experience isn’t the same experience of everyone, but it is AN experience, and would be useful to us who don’t have any experience.
      - formerkrogeremp 5y ago
        "All models are wrong. Some models are useful."
  - kmonsen 5y ago
    There is a difference between the truth and a truth. It wouldn't be pretentious to share something of your story and how you saw it in the larger picture.
    - http-teapot 5y ago
      That’s fair but disinformation and the lack of actions against it was part of why I left Twitter. As such, I feel strongly about my experience not being interpreted as the truth or that a significant portion of the company shares the same views as I do. I feel like public discourse has increasingly been more and more polarizing and anecdotes and hearsay are being leveraged to create further divisions.
      - kmonsen 5y ago
        I can certainly share your concern here, but not sure what can be done about this. Since you probably have done more thinking in this space, what are some things you think are possible?
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honkdaddy 5y ago
Which part is hearsay?

codeisawesome 5y ago

That seems like an actually valuable, human thing to work on vs the garbage many devs find themselves working on. Mini games can also be super engaging to build and are a showcase for creativity… I’m really not seeing the problem.

teen 5y ago
Get them a steam account? It's cheaper
- env123 5y ago
heavenlyblue 5y ago
They could just give support staff a proper break and let them do whatever they want with that break (including playing the games they want to play if they deem necessary)

tharne 5y ago

> This is entirely anecdotal, but from the little I know from his couple months there, Twitter has no idea what to do with the huge amount of engineers they employ. I wonder why I keep getting LinkedIn and email notifications about engineering jobs at Twitter.