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Yea now I remember it's Plato... Alex (beacon)'s objection to universalised deontology came, I think, from a dialogue - I can't remember or seem to find online
by nonrandomstring 5y ago
Yea now I remember it's Plato... Alex (beacon)'s objection to
universalised deontology came, I think, from a dialogue - I can't
remember or seem to find online it now, but it's probably in Republic
2? where Socrates, Cephalus, Polemarchus and Thrasymachus are getting
pissed and talking about weapons and the scenario comes up "Would you
give a knife back to someone who is really angry and saying they'll
kill someone - or would you lie and say you lost it" or similar. And
one of them says "It wouldn't be dishonourable (a real lie) to pretend
in that circumstance" - as you say "feigning ignorance doesn't seem
like a lie to me". So even though a Kantian lens 2000 years later,
lies have a little leeway for being "economical with the truth" under
difficult conditions. Kant doesn't chisel it in stone, he says make it
unversalisable, in which case the firmware update just makes the new
universalisable "Never tell lies unless a murderer urgently wants his
knife back".