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He also loves free speech except when employees discuss unions. He wants Twitters algorithms to be open, but his cars must stay closed. Requesting anything of

He also loves free speech except when employees discuss unions. He wants Twitters algorithms to be open, but his cars must stay closed. Requesting anything of him is anti-freedom then he projects at others how they could do better in the same contexts. He’s like a crazy TV Lenny salesman who has never actually invented anything net new. He’s playing the acquisitions of other people work game to prop up his preference to not work. Normal humans should not be given extreme leverage over other normal humans. Lie to me about “free markets” but as one of the 13% with and advanced degree, mine being in math, the average person has no ability to smell through his BS in detail, but they have a gut sense he’s just another used car salesman.

emteycz 5y ago
> He’s like a crazy TV Lenny salesman who has never actually invented anything net new. Lol, literally nobody invented anything new by this metric.
- ClumsyPilot 5y ago
  When people say inventor, they think Nicola Tesla or the Wright Brothers. Elon musk is more analogous to Stebe Jobs, primarily a businessman with some engineering backgrund. Then there is the whole controversy of tesla being funded by two guys, him being an investor and forcing them out of the company.
  - olliej 5y ago
    I would say closer to Thomas Edison - at least Jobs didn't go out stealing other peoples work.
    - verve_rat 5y ago
      Didn't he steal the GUI from Xerox?
      - astrange 5y ago
        Xerox licensed it to them. They had no other path to market since nothing at PARC had to do with selling printer paper or whatever it is they did in the 70s.
- heavyset_go 5y ago
  Musk isn't an engineer, he didn't engineer anything.
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  - misiti3780 5y ago
    What is your point? You think he is literally a talking head and all of the spaceX employees and tesla engineers did the hard work lol? I suspect he has achieved more than you ever will.
    - heavyset_go 5y ago
      Given that Musk has said himself that his titles don't mean anything[1], and the fact that he chose to give himself the title of Chief Engineer in response to people on Twitter making fun of him, it makes me believe that his self-appointed title as Chief Engineer is about as meaningful as his title of Technoking at Tesla. Musk isn't an engineer, he has no engineer credentials and isn't licensed to engineer in any country. Moreover, Musk has never engineered anything. Given the fact that both companies hire hordes of real, licensed and credentialed engineers, says that, yes, the engineers at both companies are responsible for the hard engineering work. I prefer to stick with actual facts and not feelings or insults. I'm not sure why stating the basic fact that Musk is not an engineer would upset you so much. [1] https://www.cnbc.com/2021/12/07/elon-musk-ceo-is-made-up-title-prefers-tesla-technoking.html https://www.cnbc.com/2021/12/07/elon-musk-ceo-is-made-up-tit...
      - misiti3780 5y ago
        It doesnt upset me, it goes against all evidence. There are hours of video online about him answering details about rocket technology, battery technology etc. He is a very technical CEO, not some bullshit artist like the Nikola guy. He doesnt have an engineering degree, that doesnt mean a whole lot anyways.
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ActorNightly 5y ago
This is the exact type of bias that Musk is trying to address with his stake in Twitter. Nothing you stated can be backed up by anything real - all of it is taken directly from leftists twitter headlines that are more concerned with moral grandstanding then facts.
- ClumsyPilot 5y ago
  The hypocracy is literally backed up by the post he is replying to. It is not chear to me that this person is left wing, they sinply dislike Musk. I do not recommend you go around accusing everyone of being left wing - otherwise peiple might start asking: Is asking that you practice what you preach leftwing these days? Is being a two-faced lyer a concervative value?
  - beaconstudios 5y ago
    yes
    - thirdwhrldPzz 5y ago
  - thirdwhrldPzz 5y ago
    Everyone is a hypocrite from some context. Really I just don’t think anyone should be above the real hands on work of supporting their existence. Term limits for these roles should be explicit, not a game of they who can possess the most minds the longest wins. The promise of human colonization of all of space time is still a high minded fantasy which makes this “hype/gossip my way to wealth” seemed designed to intentionally manipulate the same basal biology religion accidentally latched onto. Who knows, maybe rockets to Mars are all wrong and we should be doing something completely different; information doesn’t need to just travel in a ship, but Star Trek seems to live long and prosper in his head.
  - BuyMyBitcoins 5y ago
    In the GP’s defense, the most vociferous anti-Elon folks online tend to also identify as leftists. It makes sense that they are because Elon is a capitalist billionaire known for being anti-Union, for overworking employees, and for being a general critic of leftists on his social media. He is the antithesis of most people on the left’s ideology. >”Is asking that you practice what you preach leftwing these days? Is being a two-faced lyer a concervative value?” Now this is just playing dirty. This is a rhetorical cheap shot combined with moral grandstanding while also being nakedly partisan at the same time.
misiti3780 5y ago
- anomaly_ 5y ago
  No way man, didn’t you know OP has an advanced degree in math?!

emteycz 5y ago

> He’s like a crazy TV Lenny salesman who has never actually invented anything net new. Lol, literally nobody invented anything new by this metric.

ClumsyPilot 5y ago
When people say inventor, they think Nicola Tesla or the Wright Brothers. Elon musk is more analogous to Stebe Jobs, primarily a businessman with some engineering backgrund. Then there is the whole controversy of tesla being funded by two guys, him being an investor and forcing them out of the company.
- olliej 5y ago
  I would say closer to Thomas Edison - at least Jobs didn't go out stealing other peoples work.
  - verve_rat 5y ago
    Didn't he steal the GUI from Xerox?
    - astrange 5y ago
      Xerox licensed it to them. They had no other path to market since nothing at PARC had to do with selling printer paper or whatever it is they did in the 70s.
heavyset_go 5y ago
Musk isn't an engineer, he didn't engineer anything.
- deleted 5y ago
  [deleted]
- misiti3780 5y ago
  What is your point? You think he is literally a talking head and all of the spaceX employees and tesla engineers did the hard work lol? I suspect he has achieved more than you ever will.
  - heavyset_go 5y ago
    Given that Musk has said himself that his titles don't mean anything[1], and the fact that he chose to give himself the title of Chief Engineer in response to people on Twitter making fun of him, it makes me believe that his self-appointed title as Chief Engineer is about as meaningful as his title of Technoking at Tesla. Musk isn't an engineer, he has no engineer credentials and isn't licensed to engineer in any country. Moreover, Musk has never engineered anything. Given the fact that both companies hire hordes of real, licensed and credentialed engineers, says that, yes, the engineers at both companies are responsible for the hard engineering work. I prefer to stick with actual facts and not feelings or insults. I'm not sure why stating the basic fact that Musk is not an engineer would upset you so much. [1] https://www.cnbc.com/2021/12/07/elon-musk-ceo-is-made-up-title-prefers-tesla-technoking.html https://www.cnbc.com/2021/12/07/elon-musk-ceo-is-made-up-tit...
    - misiti3780 5y ago
      It doesnt upset me, it goes against all evidence. There are hours of video online about him answering details about rocket technology, battery technology etc. He is a very technical CEO, not some bullshit artist like the Nikola guy. He doesnt have an engineering degree, that doesnt mean a whole lot anyways.
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ActorNightly 5y ago

This is the exact type of bias that Musk is trying to address with his stake in Twitter. Nothing you stated can be backed up by anything real - all of it is taken directly from leftists twitter headlines that are more concerned with moral grandstanding then facts.

ClumsyPilot 5y ago
The hypocracy is literally backed up by the post he is replying to. It is not chear to me that this person is left wing, they sinply dislike Musk. I do not recommend you go around accusing everyone of being left wing - otherwise peiple might start asking: Is asking that you practice what you preach leftwing these days? Is being a two-faced lyer a concervative value?
- beaconstudios 5y ago
  yes
  - thirdwhrldPzz 5y ago
- thirdwhrldPzz 5y ago
  Everyone is a hypocrite from some context. Really I just don’t think anyone should be above the real hands on work of supporting their existence. Term limits for these roles should be explicit, not a game of they who can possess the most minds the longest wins. The promise of human colonization of all of space time is still a high minded fantasy which makes this “hype/gossip my way to wealth” seemed designed to intentionally manipulate the same basal biology religion accidentally latched onto. Who knows, maybe rockets to Mars are all wrong and we should be doing something completely different; information doesn’t need to just travel in a ship, but Star Trek seems to live long and prosper in his head.
- BuyMyBitcoins 5y ago
  In the GP’s defense, the most vociferous anti-Elon folks online tend to also identify as leftists. It makes sense that they are because Elon is a capitalist billionaire known for being anti-Union, for overworking employees, and for being a general critic of leftists on his social media. He is the antithesis of most people on the left’s ideology. >”Is asking that you practice what you preach leftwing these days? Is being a two-faced lyer a concervative value?” Now this is just playing dirty. This is a rhetorical cheap shot combined with moral grandstanding while also being nakedly partisan at the same time.

misiti3780 5y ago

anomaly_ 5y ago
No way man, didn’t you know OP has an advanced degree in math?!