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It's actually so good I plan to pay when they start charging.

by fallat 5y ago

href 5y ago
Same. I switched to it for a day just to give it a try and I never switched back. Absolutely willing to pay if the quality stays the same.
smk_ 5y ago
I’ll do the same as well. Kagi has literally improved my life a significant degree.
spiderice 5y ago
It's really good in some ways, and very lacking (for me) in others. The search is fine. Good enough that I would switch. However, if I was out and about and quickly needed directions to Walmart, my normal flow with Google is Pull out phone -> Safari -> type "Walmart" -> click on the map -> Maps app opens and starts guiding me When I switched to Kagi, the flow went like Pull out phone -> Safari -> type "Walmart" -> top result is Walmart.com... no address to nearest Walmart to be found -> Close Safari -> Open Maps app -> search for Walmart And it got so annoying to have those extra steps. I know I can change my workflow and get used to it. But it wasn't just directions. It was other basic searches. Like if I needed a phone number for a local business. It drove me crazy. I really hope Kagi gets better at those sort of things. I want them to succeed. But it was just too much friction for me.
- richardsocher 5y ago
  We found similar issues at https://you.com https://you.com a while back. We just had to be good for more query families. Now we have both the walmart locations in a map app, eg https://you.com/search?q=walmart https://you.com/search?q=walmart and coding related useful results, eg. https://you.com/search?q=how%20do%20I%20find%20all%20files%20containing%20specific%20text%20on%20Linux&fromSearchBar=true https://you.com/search?q=how%20do%20I%20find%20all%20files%2... or https://you.com/search?q=pyspark%20filter%20array%20element https://you.com/search?q=pyspark%20filter%20array%20element
  - Ennea 5y ago
    Too bad you.com does not work in Firefox with the "beacon" function disabled (beacon.enabled set to false in about:config).
    - richardsocher 5y ago
      Hi Ennea, Can you help me understand why you make this particular change in the config?
      - Ennea 5y ago
        To be perfectly honest, I cannot even remember making that change, but also couldn't find any info on whether Firefox or some extension may have done this. I will leave it disabled, however, because its purpose seems to be analytics, and opting out of (at least some of) them this way seems like a good idea. Since disabling it this way removes the `sendBeacon` function from existence, you should just be prepared to properly handle its absence.
        radicality 5y ago
        Is it always about analytics? Or is it ocassionaly also a useful API for other tasks? I know little about front end JS dev, but the docs say it’s just a way to send an asynchronous request (no response) with a guarantee that the the request will be sent out, even if the page starts unloading. That’s apparently not a guarantee with the two other to send requests - XmlHttpRequest and fetch api.
        312c 5y ago
        The beacon api was created specifically to be a lightweight method for telemetry/logging
    - scim-knox-twox 5y ago
      I never even tried you.com because I see nothing (I don't enable JS for sites I don't trust).
- wanderingmind 5y ago
  Kagi supports DDG bangs. So just type `Walmart !g` and you will get the google search output
- Gareth321 5y ago
  I agree this disrupts my muscle memory, but if we're honest, that particular workflow isn't necessarily optimal. It's just what Google has trained us to do. If you're seeking directions to Walmart, the most efficient (and one might argue intuitive) method is to open your maps app directly, and type in "Walmart".

It's actually so good I plan to pay when they start charging.

by fallat 5y ago

It's actually so good I plan to pay when they start charging.

href 5y ago

Same. I switched to it for a day just to give it a try and I never switched back. Absolutely willing to pay if the quality stays the same.

smk_ 5y ago

I’ll do the same as well. Kagi has literally improved my life a significant degree.

spiderice 5y ago

It's really good in some ways, and very lacking (for me) in others. The search is fine. Good enough that I would switch. However, if I was out and about and quickly needed directions to Walmart, my normal flow with Google is Pull out phone -> Safari -> type "Walmart" -> click on the map -> Maps app opens and starts guiding me When I switched to Kagi, the flow went like Pull out phone -> Safari -> type "Walmart" -> top result is Walmart.com... no address to nearest Walmart to be found -> Close Safari -> Open Maps app -> search for Walmart And it got so annoying to have those extra steps. I know I can change my workflow and get used to it. But it wasn't just directions. It was other basic searches. Like if I needed a phone number for a local business. It drove me crazy. I really hope Kagi gets better at those sort of things. I want them to succeed. But it was just too much friction for me.

richardsocher 5y ago
We found similar issues at https://you.com https://you.com a while back. We just had to be good for more query families. Now we have both the walmart locations in a map app, eg https://you.com/search?q=walmart https://you.com/search?q=walmart and coding related useful results, eg. https://you.com/search?q=how%20do%20I%20find%20all%20files%20containing%20specific%20text%20on%20Linux&fromSearchBar=true https://you.com/search?q=how%20do%20I%20find%20all%20files%2... or https://you.com/search?q=pyspark%20filter%20array%20element https://you.com/search?q=pyspark%20filter%20array%20element
- Ennea 5y ago
  Too bad you.com does not work in Firefox with the "beacon" function disabled (beacon.enabled set to false in about:config).
  - richardsocher 5y ago
    Hi Ennea, Can you help me understand why you make this particular change in the config?
    - Ennea 5y ago
      To be perfectly honest, I cannot even remember making that change, but also couldn't find any info on whether Firefox or some extension may have done this. I will leave it disabled, however, because its purpose seems to be analytics, and opting out of (at least some of) them this way seems like a good idea. Since disabling it this way removes the `sendBeacon` function from existence, you should just be prepared to properly handle its absence.
      - radicality 5y ago
        Is it always about analytics? Or is it ocassionaly also a useful API for other tasks? I know little about front end JS dev, but the docs say it’s just a way to send an asynchronous request (no response) with a guarantee that the the request will be sent out, even if the page starts unloading. That’s apparently not a guarantee with the two other to send requests - XmlHttpRequest and fetch api.
        312c 5y ago
        The beacon api was created specifically to be a lightweight method for telemetry/logging
  - scim-knox-twox 5y ago
    I never even tried you.com because I see nothing (I don't enable JS for sites I don't trust).
wanderingmind 5y ago
Kagi supports DDG bangs. So just type `Walmart !g` and you will get the google search output
Gareth321 5y ago
I agree this disrupts my muscle memory, but if we're honest, that particular workflow isn't necessarily optimal. It's just what Google has trained us to do. If you're seeking directions to Walmart, the most efficient (and one might argue intuitive) method is to open your maps app directly, and type in "Walmart".