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I don’t think they’ll put macOS on an iPad either, but they’ve been positioning the iPad as a computer for a long time. Even in marketing language at times.

smoldesu 5y ago
Frankly, it's really frustrating to watch them posture like this when pretty much every use-case that isn't content consumption or light content-creation is out the window. "The iPad is a computer!" Okay, what's the development experience like on it? "Well, for $19.99 you can buy a license for this app that lets you SSH into another box to do your work!" That's okay, I'm fine sticking with my laptop. How's the software situation? "It's great! You can only download the stuff Apple lets you get, or you can pay $99 a year for the privilege of loading arbitrary software." I think that's another win for the PC... at least I can do my web browsing on it, right? "Of course! Safari is a first-class experience on iPad, which is why it's the exclusive supported browser on iPadOS." Any platform with this many "gotchas" probably doesn't qualify as a computer any more than a LeapPad or a feature phone does.
- eyelidlessness 5y ago
  I mean, this would bother me—as in, I’d leave the platform—if they didn’t offer a bunch of other computers without any of those limitations. But then, I’m not in the target market for the iPad, and I have no interest in its features on a Mac.
- coldtea 5y ago
  >"The iPad is a computer!" Okay, what's the development experience like on it? Even if it's bad, development is like 1% of what computers are used for. More PC/laptop users never program anything or even know how to are care to learn.
  - eyelidlessness 5y ago
    This is also true, +- Excel. Which I haven’t used on iOS but I’d be shocked if it’s not a good experience at least relative to Excel UX generally.
- vineyardmike 5y ago
  > rankly, it's really frustrating to watch them posture like this when pretty much every use-case that isn't content consumption or light content-creation is out the window. They advertise a lot of real, specific use cases. And lots of people do actually use these devices to do work. > Okay, what's the development experience like on it? Oh you meant your use case. > Any platform with this many "gotchas" probably doesn't qualify as a computer any more than a LeapPad or a feature phone does. It’s 2022, literally toasters are internet connected. “Computer” is a pretty vague term already. Plenty of people can actually do their work on an iPad. I’d call it a computer, but I’m not tied to it. Who cares if it’s a “computer”? It does what most people need and I’m guessing you were never going to consider an apple product anyways.

smoldesu 5y ago

Frankly, it's really frustrating to watch them posture like this when pretty much every use-case that isn't content consumption or light content-creation is out the window. "The iPad is a computer!" Okay, what's the development experience like on it? "Well, for $19.99 you can buy a license for this app that lets you SSH into another box to do your work!" That's okay, I'm fine sticking with my laptop. How's the software situation? "It's great! You can only download the stuff Apple lets you get, or you can pay $99 a year for the privilege of loading arbitrary software." I think that's another win for the PC... at least I can do my web browsing on it, right? "Of course! Safari is a first-class experience on iPad, which is why it's the exclusive supported browser on iPadOS." Any platform with this many "gotchas" probably doesn't qualify as a computer any more than a LeapPad or a feature phone does.

eyelidlessness 5y ago
I mean, this would bother me—as in, I’d leave the platform—if they didn’t offer a bunch of other computers without any of those limitations. But then, I’m not in the target market for the iPad, and I have no interest in its features on a Mac.
coldtea 5y ago
>"The iPad is a computer!" Okay, what's the development experience like on it? Even if it's bad, development is like 1% of what computers are used for. More PC/laptop users never program anything or even know how to are care to learn.
- eyelidlessness 5y ago
  This is also true, +- Excel. Which I haven’t used on iOS but I’d be shocked if it’s not a good experience at least relative to Excel UX generally.
vineyardmike 5y ago
> rankly, it's really frustrating to watch them posture like this when pretty much every use-case that isn't content consumption or light content-creation is out the window. They advertise a lot of real, specific use cases. And lots of people do actually use these devices to do work. > Okay, what's the development experience like on it? Oh you meant your use case. > Any platform with this many "gotchas" probably doesn't qualify as a computer any more than a LeapPad or a feature phone does. It’s 2022, literally toasters are internet connected. “Computer” is a pretty vague term already. Plenty of people can actually do their work on an iPad. I’d call it a computer, but I’m not tied to it. Who cares if it’s a “computer”? It does what most people need and I’m guessing you were never going to consider an apple product anyways.