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you're right, hopefully all those political woke people will go elsewhere. Then they can be replaced by people who believe in minimal oversight and free speech,
by beaconstudios 5y ago
you're right, hopefully all those political woke people will go elsewhere. Then they can be replaced by people who believe in minimal oversight and free speech, and then twitter will be truly apolitical.
- kreeben 5y ago"Un-woke" people are greater than or at least equally political compared to those you call "woke", is my experience from real life as well as internet encounters with them, so your longing for an apolitical Twitter/online public town square seems a pipe dream, I'm afraid.
- beaconstudios 5y agoyeah I know, I was being sarcastic. There's no such thing as apolitical in any sphere that engages with real-world issues of contention.
- dijonman2 5y agoI was hoping you were serious.
- beaconstudios 5y agowhat issue do you have with woke people?
- EricE 5y agoThey aren't happy until everyone is as miserable as they are. For starters...
- dijonman2 5y agoIt’s incredibly toxic
- beaconstudios 5y agoso the thing that's bad about progressives is... it's bad? not the best argument I've heard/
- rayiner 5y agoEveryone is political. But “woke” people are like the old Christian right. They’re willing to use their control of institutions to prosthelytize their ideology in a way that ordinary liberals or conservatives aren’t.
- beaconstudios 5y agoit's not that woke people control the institutions - it's that companies see that they can run successful PR and marketing campaigns by espousing progressive values. Their boards don't give two shits about progressive values, but flying a rainbow flag during pride month doesn't require that they do anything, while gaining praise from liberals and criticism from conservatives, both of which are coverage/press.
- edrxty 5y agoIn addition to this, white collar workers are going to align a little more left and it makes them feel better if the company isn't cheering for gays to be lynched or whatever. It's generally easier to hire for highly educated positions if you appear mildly woke, even if you do absolutely nothing to that end.
- AlexandrB 5y agoConservative states are literally passing laws banning the teaching of radical ideas like "gay people exist". If that's not "prosthelytizing their ideology", I don't know what is.
- _-david-_ 5y agoLiterally no state has passed a law teaching gay people do not exist. You should read the actual bills and take some time off Twitter while you are at it.
- edrxty 5y agoHave...you? Specifically looking at Florida, the issue is, while they don't say you can't "say gay" the wording is deliberately vague on what can be taught and when. This is very much intended to create a chilling effect on classroom speech because teachers and school districts don't have the cash to find out in court and all it takes is one dumb parent to start a massive court battle.
- dijonman2 5y agoPersonal anecdote. I’m anti-woke, and I don’t discuss politics in any significant quantity. Instead I believe in being a decent person. We can talk until we’re green in the face but I welcome the day Twitter stops being a leftist authoritarian echo chamber.
- LordDragonfang 5y agoYou've made an awful lot of comments in threads about politics for someone who "doesn’t discuss politics in any significant quantity". Perhaps take some time to reflect as to whether that label is really true for you, and focus more on that latter belief. Being a decent person is admirable.
- dijonman2 5y agoI fail to see how your comment is substantiative. I don’t need to reflect, but thx for your concern.
- throwaway894345 5y agoI take your point--that the choice to stop smothering people in woke content is itself a political decision (for sufficiently abstract notion of "political"), but it seems infinitely better than smothering people in any particular ideological content at all. The woke people can still opt into their own filter bubbles without their ideology being foisted on everyone.
- baq 5y agoyou mean an open field for CIA, FSB and MOSAD to perform psyops?
- astrange 5y agoNo one has a higher opinion of the CIA or thinks it's more competent than people who think everything is propaganda from them. Without looking it up, do you think the CIA supported the Iraq War?
- dang 5y agoPlease don't post this sort of shallow ideological flamewar comment. It just leads to crap threads. If you want to express your substantive views more thoughtfully, that's of course fine. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30921167 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30921167.