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> Lots of celebrities are gigantic douchebags and no one cares. Tons of people care, an entire industry of celebrity gossip lives off of it. Elon has just as

> Lots of celebrities are gigantic douchebags and no one cares. Tons of people care, an entire industry of celebrity gossip lives off of it. Elon has just as much of a cult following as he has haters, the fact that you can’t see how perfectly this mirrors wider celebrity culture suggests that you are either very out of touch with pop culture, or are a part of the Elon cult.

slibhb 5y ago
> Tons of people care, an entire industry of celebrity gossip lives off of it. You have a point. But what does it say about someone that they spend time hating celebrities? Do they think "this celebrity is a bad person, if I were rich and famous I would be a good good person!" Is that true? Or is it just childish resentment? Do we defend the people who have a deranged hatred towards Anne Hathaway? No we find them bizarre and disturbed.
- wbsss4412 5y ago
  Do we defend people for being annoyed by a drunk guy at a bar? You seem to be under the impression that there is nothing legitimately off putting about Elon’s public persona.
  - slibhb 5y ago
    Here's what I originally wrote: > Elon Musk is kind of obnoxious. He lies (or "exaggerates"). But what Tesla has done is insane. It's happened so quickly, and that's leaving aside the rockets. The hard evidence that we can build new things, that we can progress and build a future that's better than the present is so important. If it takes a flawed man to show us that, I'll take it. > If you hate Elon Musk, consider probing your mind deeply to figure out why. It may just be that you're an Ayn Rand villain. Please show me where I said "there is nothing legitimately off putting about Elon’s public persona".
    - wbsss4412 5y ago
      Apologies, I seem to have lost track of that part of the thread. You just come off as so aghast at criticism of the man.
- the_only_law 5y ago
  > But what does it say about someone that they spend time hating celebrities? Probably about the same thing as people that spend their time defending and dickriding celebrities on the internet.
- wbsss4412 5y ago
  One other point. Elon didn’t like how Twitter was being run, so he spent a relatively minor fraction of his overall wealth to buy a large stake in the company and get himself onto the board. This is beyond comprehension to the average person who is typically just a the will of these large corporations. Elon is _extremely_ powerful, and as such he deserves to be held to a higher level of scrutiny, beyond even the level of some random celebrity.

slibhb 5y ago

> Tons of people care, an entire industry of celebrity gossip lives off of it. You have a point. But what does it say about someone that they spend time hating celebrities? Do they think "this celebrity is a bad person, if I were rich and famous I would be a good good person!" Is that true? Or is it just childish resentment? Do we defend the people who have a deranged hatred towards Anne Hathaway? No we find them bizarre and disturbed.

wbsss4412 5y ago
Do we defend people for being annoyed by a drunk guy at a bar? You seem to be under the impression that there is nothing legitimately off putting about Elon’s public persona.
- slibhb 5y ago
  Here's what I originally wrote: > Elon Musk is kind of obnoxious. He lies (or "exaggerates"). But what Tesla has done is insane. It's happened so quickly, and that's leaving aside the rockets. The hard evidence that we can build new things, that we can progress and build a future that's better than the present is so important. If it takes a flawed man to show us that, I'll take it. > If you hate Elon Musk, consider probing your mind deeply to figure out why. It may just be that you're an Ayn Rand villain. Please show me where I said "there is nothing legitimately off putting about Elon’s public persona".
  - wbsss4412 5y ago
    Apologies, I seem to have lost track of that part of the thread. You just come off as so aghast at criticism of the man.
the_only_law 5y ago
> But what does it say about someone that they spend time hating celebrities? Probably about the same thing as people that spend their time defending and dickriding celebrities on the internet.
wbsss4412 5y ago
One other point. Elon didn’t like how Twitter was being run, so he spent a relatively minor fraction of his overall wealth to buy a large stake in the company and get himself onto the board. This is beyond comprehension to the average person who is typically just a the will of these large corporations. Elon is _extremely_ powerful, and as such he deserves to be held to a higher level of scrutiny, beyond even the level of some random celebrity.