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Will you be proposing any alternative revenue streams for Mozilla to use? Do you even know what data is being sent to the two listed domains? Or do you just see

Will you be proposing any alternative revenue streams for Mozilla to use? Do you even know what data is being sent to the two listed domains? Or do you just see pings and that annoys you? > services.addons.mozilla.org Have you tried turn off addon auto updates? Could you please share what browser you use? > they run updates automatically This is a feature. Web browser updates are some of the most important updates on your device. Getting any lay person to update their browser is difficult. >your browser stops working until you restart it Untrue. Opening a new tab won't work, but your current tabs are still usable. Firefox will also open all your previously opened tabs after updating. Not really a huge disruption. I use Firefox on Windows and have never had this behavior fyi. Only on Linux. > You come across as a paid advertisement Completely unnecessary.

Darmody 5y ago
This is a feature. Web browser updates are some of the most important updates on your device. Getting any lay person to update their browser is difficult. A feature that keeps breaking my work every couple of weeks. It doesn't even allow me to restart when I'm ready. It forces me by not allowing me to open new tabs. I want to have control of my browser, not the other way around.
- noisem4ker 5y ago
  The problem is that when the package manager does its updates it replaces Firefox' files while it is running, putting it into an inconsistent state, so Firefox rightfully enters a defensive mode and prevents you from doing stuff that could result in unpredictably broken behavior ("Why are new pages not loading correctly? Stupid fox, always breaking and needing to be restarted"). Blame Linux' package managers and Linux' liberal way of overwriting files that are in use*. On Windows, a Firefox-specific service takes care of updating the files in between runs, so you can continue using it until you want. * See also the recent introduction of Offline Updates in SystemD, showing how "Linux can do updates on a running system and does not need to be restarted" was always a farce and invisibly broke stuff.
  - watermelon0 5y ago
    I am fairly sure this also happens on macOS, where you cannot blame package manager.
  - johnklos 5y ago
    It's not the package manager that does this.
johnklos 5y ago

Darmody 5y ago

This is a feature. Web browser updates are some of the most important updates on your device. Getting any lay person to update their browser is difficult. A feature that keeps breaking my work every couple of weeks. It doesn't even allow me to restart when I'm ready. It forces me by not allowing me to open new tabs. I want to have control of my browser, not the other way around.

noisem4ker 5y ago
The problem is that when the package manager does its updates it replaces Firefox' files while it is running, putting it into an inconsistent state, so Firefox rightfully enters a defensive mode and prevents you from doing stuff that could result in unpredictably broken behavior ("Why are new pages not loading correctly? Stupid fox, always breaking and needing to be restarted"). Blame Linux' package managers and Linux' liberal way of overwriting files that are in use*. On Windows, a Firefox-specific service takes care of updating the files in between runs, so you can continue using it until you want. * See also the recent introduction of Offline Updates in SystemD, showing how "Linux can do updates on a running system and does not need to be restarted" was always a farce and invisibly broke stuff.
- watermelon0 5y ago
  I am fairly sure this also happens on macOS, where you cannot blame package manager.
- johnklos 5y ago
  It's not the package manager that does this.

johnklos 5y ago