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HN has a bias against Elon Musk. That’s pretty much what you need to know.

by sixQuarks 5y ago

mhh__ 5y ago
Or for Elon Musk, depends who you ask. HN is't a person's initials.
- sixQuarks 5y ago
  Puh-lease. Bias means tendency to lean a certain way, you can’t have bias in 2 opposite directions. The pro Elon crowd here is a minority. Something I’ll never understand, being that this is an entrepreneurial forum and Elon is the worlds best entrepreneur. Jealousy perhaps?
  - mhh__ 5y ago
    What I'm saying is that you can't reduce the whole site down to one made up measure of bias. Maybe it is jealousy, maybe it's that he's a neurotic moron who's more than happy to try and ruin the careers of little people. How many of the great entrepreneurs of history got embarrassed after their scheme doesn't work and call their competitor a paedophile? You can recognize his skills while also recognizing that he's not a very nice man.
    - 0F 5y ago
      No, the bias is everywhere and HN is just reflecting that universal bias. It’s very popular to dislike Elon musk and it’s very unpopular to be a supporter. Count the number of supporters vs detractors in any mainstream thread — musk haters will be the majority every single time despite the fact that his detractors refer constantly to a phantom army of supporters. Every Reddit thread is basically 100 people responding to non-existent “fan boy” straw men. And they also like to spread the falsehood that Elon musk used gem mine money to become successful. It’s literally just made up nonsense. People like to act like his pedo tweet was some kind of crime against humanity. Let’s have a look at your twitter if you’re so indignant. People are such shameless hypocrites.
      - panick21_ 5y ago
        He is involved in global conspiricy to manipulate Dogecoin so he can buy more Slave mines to mine cobalt. That a fact.
      - mhh__ 5y ago
        I have never called anyone a paedophile on the internet, no. Have you?
        0F 5y ago
        The average person has simultaneously been outraged at his pedo tweet and also tweeted the same or worse. Have you actually been on twitter? It’s mostly irrational hate and insults Also I assume you’re British so it’s not the same. You people have a problem with pedophiles. You actually bleep out when people say the word and censor the word when people write it. It’s like some kind of big deal over there. That’s just you bro, nobody else is like that.
        mhh__ 5y ago
        None of that last paragraph is true other than me being British. You're completely in the realms of fantasy. Seriously?
        0F 5y ago
        I’ve seen it so maybe uncommon but not untrue. But it’s 100% true that British people have a weird problem with pedophilia, even compared to other western countries. Problem both in the sense that you all seem to be pedophiles and also in that the topic is enveloped in moral dogma.
        mhh__ 5y ago
        I'm glad that I only seem to be a paedophile, that means I won't get found by the police for a little while yet. You should join in, it's fun.
  - honeybadger1 5y ago
    Jealousy indeed, I am a fan of Elon because I can appreciate that he is an engineer first in almost every way he communicates professionally. It is very obvious he keeps abreast to physics, engineering, and he even has core IT knowledge. I watched a 30 minute video where he spent 2 minutes explaining a trace route to a interviewer in detail and it made me like him even more.
  - VerminOctopus1 5y ago
    You could claim jealousy, but that’s reductive. Elon Musk annoys a lot of people, for a plethora of reasons. It’s pretty easy to find wide ranging genuine criticism of him from numerous perspectives, if you want to actually understand. Or you could hand wave it all away and claim jealousy I guess, just know it’s a lazy explanation.
    - sixQuarks 5y ago
      It’s more lazy to claim all the criticisms about him are true. So many of these criticisms are based off of clickbaity headlines. If you actually follow him closely, actually listen to his interviews over time, you will see he is very consistent in his words and actions. There is no doubt in my mind that he aims to do good for humanity as a whole.
rc_mob 5y ago
We have fair and objective criticism of Elon Musk. Your failures to accept or understand the criticism does not constitute "bias".
- panick21_ 5y ago
  There is certainly fair criticsm but quite often people have totally aburd claims. Like he bought twitter because of flight bot. Or idiotic ideas about how everything he does is some 7D galaxy brain chess to achive some dubiously defined goals. Some people really go close to conspiricy theory mode and still get upvoted.

HN has a bias against Elon Musk. That’s pretty much what you need to know.

mhh__ 5y ago

Or for Elon Musk, depends who you ask. HN is't a person's initials.

sixQuarks 5y ago
Puh-lease. Bias means tendency to lean a certain way, you can’t have bias in 2 opposite directions. The pro Elon crowd here is a minority. Something I’ll never understand, being that this is an entrepreneurial forum and Elon is the worlds best entrepreneur. Jealousy perhaps?
- mhh__ 5y ago
  What I'm saying is that you can't reduce the whole site down to one made up measure of bias. Maybe it is jealousy, maybe it's that he's a neurotic moron who's more than happy to try and ruin the careers of little people. How many of the great entrepreneurs of history got embarrassed after their scheme doesn't work and call their competitor a paedophile? You can recognize his skills while also recognizing that he's not a very nice man.
  - 0F 5y ago
    No, the bias is everywhere and HN is just reflecting that universal bias. It’s very popular to dislike Elon musk and it’s very unpopular to be a supporter. Count the number of supporters vs detractors in any mainstream thread — musk haters will be the majority every single time despite the fact that his detractors refer constantly to a phantom army of supporters. Every Reddit thread is basically 100 people responding to non-existent “fan boy” straw men. And they also like to spread the falsehood that Elon musk used gem mine money to become successful. It’s literally just made up nonsense. People like to act like his pedo tweet was some kind of crime against humanity. Let’s have a look at your twitter if you’re so indignant. People are such shameless hypocrites.
    - panick21_ 5y ago
      He is involved in global conspiricy to manipulate Dogecoin so he can buy more Slave mines to mine cobalt. That a fact.
    - mhh__ 5y ago
      I have never called anyone a paedophile on the internet, no. Have you?
      - 0F 5y ago
        The average person has simultaneously been outraged at his pedo tweet and also tweeted the same or worse. Have you actually been on twitter? It’s mostly irrational hate and insults Also I assume you’re British so it’s not the same. You people have a problem with pedophiles. You actually bleep out when people say the word and censor the word when people write it. It’s like some kind of big deal over there. That’s just you bro, nobody else is like that.
        mhh__ 5y ago
        None of that last paragraph is true other than me being British. You're completely in the realms of fantasy. Seriously?
        0F 5y ago
        I’ve seen it so maybe uncommon but not untrue. But it’s 100% true that British people have a weird problem with pedophilia, even compared to other western countries. Problem both in the sense that you all seem to be pedophiles and also in that the topic is enveloped in moral dogma.
        mhh__ 5y ago
        I'm glad that I only seem to be a paedophile, that means I won't get found by the police for a little while yet. You should join in, it's fun.
- honeybadger1 5y ago
  Jealousy indeed, I am a fan of Elon because I can appreciate that he is an engineer first in almost every way he communicates professionally. It is very obvious he keeps abreast to physics, engineering, and he even has core IT knowledge. I watched a 30 minute video where he spent 2 minutes explaining a trace route to a interviewer in detail and it made me like him even more.
- VerminOctopus1 5y ago
  You could claim jealousy, but that’s reductive. Elon Musk annoys a lot of people, for a plethora of reasons. It’s pretty easy to find wide ranging genuine criticism of him from numerous perspectives, if you want to actually understand. Or you could hand wave it all away and claim jealousy I guess, just know it’s a lazy explanation.
  - sixQuarks 5y ago
    It’s more lazy to claim all the criticisms about him are true. So many of these criticisms are based off of clickbaity headlines. If you actually follow him closely, actually listen to his interviews over time, you will see he is very consistent in his words and actions. There is no doubt in my mind that he aims to do good for humanity as a whole.

rc_mob 5y ago

We have fair and objective criticism of Elon Musk. Your failures to accept or understand the criticism does not constitute "bias".

panick21_ 5y ago
There is certainly fair criticsm but quite often people have totally aburd claims. Like he bought twitter because of flight bot. Or idiotic ideas about how everything he does is some 7D galaxy brain chess to achive some dubiously defined goals. Some people really go close to conspiricy theory mode and still get upvoted.