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Does HN crowd REALLY believe he is going to remove censorship and preserve the voice of the underclass ? Thats the most naive thing to believe.

by shmde 5y ago

Tehchops 5y ago
No, it's the pseudo-libertarian HN crowd that's super excited because they think it means they can be assholes and engage in derogatory/discriminatory speech online again, all in the name of combating the nebulous "woke" bogeyman.
dav_Oz 5y ago
My take on this is that he wants to bring back more of a wild west. I kinda sympathize with the sentiment to create a more relaxed version of Twitter where only the obvious in terms of free speech is excluded (like MMA/Vale Tudo - in terms of a "free fight"- not allowing eye gouging etc.) but this certainly isn't something for everyone. Not a lot of people can stomach 4chan taking this to an extreme. So how you go about this? As a mere mortal you are damned to create a new thing, create a PR-campaign from the outside to pressure Twitter ... the usual things. But as the richest person on the planet you don't only possess the resources to do all the above way better, additionally you can simply just buy up "Twitter". Which is kind of crazy like buying up a restaurant after not being satisfied with the service. Well, the stock price did go up significantly and yeah, in order to make things "more fun" for Twitter users again (the most active being obviously not underclass) one can relax some "out of control" censorship practices.
- nemothekid 5y ago
  >I kinda sympathize with the sentiment to create a more relaxed version of Twitter where only the obvious in terms of free speech is excluded How does this happen though? When someone is "cancelled on Twitter" what does that mean? Is it Jack Dorsey going in a banning your account? Twitter suspensions, by the actual company, are relatively well reasoned. What most people don't like is the Twitter mob, who does not work for Twitter. Despite people saying they want "more free speech" what they actually want is to suppress the free speech of others so they can say what they want.
MrMan 5y ago
This censorship hue and cry about Twitter is ridiculous. But also quite frightening given how much I see it here in a forum of self-diagnosed geniuses[0]. [0]do your own research, have being poor

Does HN crowd REALLY believe he is going to remove censorship and preserve the voice of the underclass ? Thats the most naive thing to believe.

by shmde 5y ago

Does HN crowd REALLY believe he is going to remove censorship and preserve the voice of the underclass ? Thats the most naive thing to believe.

Tehchops 5y ago

No, it's the pseudo-libertarian HN crowd that's super excited because they think it means they can be assholes and engage in derogatory/discriminatory speech online again, all in the name of combating the nebulous "woke" bogeyman.

dav_Oz 5y ago

My take on this is that he wants to bring back more of a wild west. I kinda sympathize with the sentiment to create a more relaxed version of Twitter where only the obvious in terms of free speech is excluded (like MMA/Vale Tudo - in terms of a "free fight"- not allowing eye gouging etc.) but this certainly isn't something for everyone. Not a lot of people can stomach 4chan taking this to an extreme. So how you go about this? As a mere mortal you are damned to create a new thing, create a PR-campaign from the outside to pressure Twitter ... the usual things. But as the richest person on the planet you don't only possess the resources to do all the above way better, additionally you can simply just buy up "Twitter". Which is kind of crazy like buying up a restaurant after not being satisfied with the service. Well, the stock price did go up significantly and yeah, in order to make things "more fun" for Twitter users again (the most active being obviously not underclass) one can relax some "out of control" censorship practices.

nemothekid 5y ago
>I kinda sympathize with the sentiment to create a more relaxed version of Twitter where only the obvious in terms of free speech is excluded How does this happen though? When someone is "cancelled on Twitter" what does that mean? Is it Jack Dorsey going in a banning your account? Twitter suspensions, by the actual company, are relatively well reasoned. What most people don't like is the Twitter mob, who does not work for Twitter. Despite people saying they want "more free speech" what they actually want is to suppress the free speech of others so they can say what they want.

MrMan 5y ago

This censorship hue and cry about Twitter is ridiculous. But also quite frightening given how much I see it here in a forum of self-diagnosed geniuses[0]. [0]do your own research, have being poor