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> At least Elon Musk is a very rich person who believes in free speech. Yes thats exactly why he was willing to shell out 50,000$ to a kid to remove his flight

by shmde 5y ago

> At least Elon Musk is a very rich person who believes in free speech. Yes thats exactly why he was willing to shell out 50,000$ to a kid to remove his flight tracking bot. Stop licking his boot.

sixQuarks 5y ago
Oh wow, what a great example. You have totally changed my mind. /s
memish 5y ago
Nice projection. Who is licking the boots here? 1. Those who back authoritarian style censorship conducted in opaque fashion 2. Those who back free speech and transparency
- dlp211 5y ago
  Yes, I too can't wait for the entire internet to be 4chan. There is no such thing as absolute free speech and I have no idea where you all are coming up with this idea. By definition, absolute free speech cannot exist because your speech ends where mine begins. Free speech does not mean free from moderation or consequences and criticisms, both are forms of speech themselves. There is no authoritarian censorship going on here.
  - krapp 5y ago
    >There is no such thing as absolute free speech and I have no idea where you all are coming up with this idea. As with so many plagues on American society and current political discourse, this came from Trump supporters, specifically angry at being banned from social media platforms for hate speech and disinformation, and suddenly deciding that rules and social consequences for their behavior were a violation of their civil rights. The attempt to redefine free speech is part of a movement to impugn social media platforms as engaging in widespread politically motivated suppression of free speech, with the implication they need to be forced by law to host the kind of content they would otherwise refuse to.
  - MockObject 5y ago
    > absolute free speech This is a strawman argument, that nobody seriously proposed.
arjun_krishna1 5y ago
Ummm... This is still up? https://twitter.com/ElonJet https://twitter.com/ElonJet
sebzim4500 5y ago
The kid asked for $50k, Elon said no, which is why the bot is still up. In any case, paying someone to shut up is no violating their free speech.
- srveale 5y ago
  Neither is a private company deciding what they will allow on their platform
- sdfgdf 5y ago
syshum 5y ago
Offering someone $50K to stop doing something == Free Association and Free Market Advocating Totalitarian controls via Terms of Service, and/or Government !== Free Association Come back when it attempts to have Twitter ban this persons account, then you may have a case, offering an monetary incentive for someone to change their behavior is not censorship in any form. Stop being a tool

by shmde 5y ago

> At least Elon Musk is a very rich person who believes in free speech. Yes thats exactly why he was willing to shell out 50,000$ to a kid to remove his flight tracking bot. Stop licking his boot.

sixQuarks 5y ago

Oh wow, what a great example. You have totally changed my mind. /s

memish 5y ago

Nice projection. Who is licking the boots here? 1. Those who back authoritarian style censorship conducted in opaque fashion 2. Those who back free speech and transparency

dlp211 5y ago
Yes, I too can't wait for the entire internet to be 4chan. There is no such thing as absolute free speech and I have no idea where you all are coming up with this idea. By definition, absolute free speech cannot exist because your speech ends where mine begins. Free speech does not mean free from moderation or consequences and criticisms, both are forms of speech themselves. There is no authoritarian censorship going on here.
- krapp 5y ago
  >There is no such thing as absolute free speech and I have no idea where you all are coming up with this idea. As with so many plagues on American society and current political discourse, this came from Trump supporters, specifically angry at being banned from social media platforms for hate speech and disinformation, and suddenly deciding that rules and social consequences for their behavior were a violation of their civil rights. The attempt to redefine free speech is part of a movement to impugn social media platforms as engaging in widespread politically motivated suppression of free speech, with the implication they need to be forced by law to host the kind of content they would otherwise refuse to.
- MockObject 5y ago
  > absolute free speech This is a strawman argument, that nobody seriously proposed.

arjun_krishna1 5y ago

Ummm... This is still up? https://twitter.com/ElonJet https://twitter.com/ElonJet

sebzim4500 5y ago

The kid asked for $50k, Elon said no, which is why the bot is still up. In any case, paying someone to shut up is no violating their free speech.

srveale 5y ago
Neither is a private company deciding what they will allow on their platform
sdfgdf 5y ago

syshum 5y ago

Offering someone $50K to stop doing something == Free Association and Free Market Advocating Totalitarian controls via Terms of Service, and/or Government !== Free Association Come back when it attempts to have Twitter ban this persons account, then you may have a case, offering an monetary incentive for someone to change their behavior is not censorship in any form. Stop being a tool