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Obligatory ”thank you" to Mozilla for their persistence. There is no alternative to having Firefox. I'm using it as my primary browser and so should everybody

Obligatory ”thank you" to Mozilla for their persistence. There is no alternative to having Firefox. I'm using it as my primary browser and so should everybody else.

johnklos 5y ago
- thaway2839 5y ago
  Are there any alternatives that don't do stuff like that? For example, the only realistic mainstream alternatives, Edge and Chrome, have you literally logged into the browser with your MS/Google accounts, and can associate everything you do on the browser with your MS/Google account.
  - simon04 5y ago
    Disable every Firefox anti-feature using https://ffprofile.com/ https://ffprofile.com/
    - fartcannon 5y ago
      I've been using Mull on Android and Librefox on Linux.
- tristan957 5y ago
  Will you be proposing any alternative revenue streams for Mozilla to use? Do you even know what data is being sent to the two listed domains? Or do you just see pings and that annoys you? > services.addons.mozilla.org Have you tried turn off addon auto updates? Could you please share what browser you use? > they run updates automatically This is a feature. Web browser updates are some of the most important updates on your device. Getting any lay person to update their browser is difficult. >your browser stops working until you restart it Untrue. Opening a new tab won't work, but your current tabs are still usable. Firefox will also open all your previously opened tabs after updating. Not really a huge disruption. I use Firefox on Windows and have never had this behavior fyi. Only on Linux. > You come across as a paid advertisement Completely unnecessary.
  - Darmody 5y ago
    This is a feature. Web browser updates are some of the most important updates on your device. Getting any lay person to update their browser is difficult. A feature that keeps breaking my work every couple of weeks. It doesn't even allow me to restart when I'm ready. It forces me by not allowing me to open new tabs. I want to have control of my browser, not the other way around.
    - noisem4ker 5y ago
      The problem is that when the package manager does its updates it replaces Firefox' files while it is running, putting it into an inconsistent state, so Firefox rightfully enters a defensive mode and prevents you from doing stuff that could result in unpredictably broken behavior ("Why are new pages not loading correctly? Stupid fox, always breaking and needing to be restarted"). Blame Linux' package managers and Linux' liberal way of overwriting files that are in use*. On Windows, a Firefox-specific service takes care of updating the files in between runs, so you can continue using it until you want. * See also the recent introduction of Offline Updates in SystemD, showing how "Linux can do updates on a running system and does not need to be restarted" was always a farce and invisibly broke stuff.
      - watermelon0 5y ago
        I am fairly sure this also happens on macOS, where you cannot blame package manager.
      - johnklos 5y ago
        It's not the package manager that does this.
  - johnklos 5y ago
- freedomben 5y ago
  > sending all of your browser DNS lookups to a company that protects spammers and scammers. Are you talking about Cloudflare?
rvz 5y ago
> There is no alternative to having Firefox. I'm using it as my primary browser and so should everybody else. Nope. Mozilla has proven to not be so privacy-friendly after all or even serious about it these days. At this point, one might as well just save yourself the pain and use Brave instead.
- DanAtC 5y ago
  Because Brave's crypto ad pyramid scheme is better?
  - mixedCase 5y ago
    There's a button in the settings to disable it if you don't like it. I've never used it, so far it's the best browser I've used.
  - fsflover 5y ago
    Or because Google deciding the direction of browser development is better.
- akselmo 5y ago
  Isnt brave just chrome (blink) with different clothes and tons of cryposcam ads
footlose_3815 5y ago
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akmittal 5y ago
Good that you are liking firefox. But i feel mozilla does not have same principles now a days. Or maybe their marketshare has made them desperate. I exclusively use Edge on mobile and Mac, it is great, support adblock on mobile and better privacy than chrome.

Obligatory ”thank you" to Mozilla for their persistence. There is no alternative to having Firefox. I'm using it as my primary browser and so should everybody else.

johnklos 5y ago

thaway2839 5y ago
Are there any alternatives that don't do stuff like that? For example, the only realistic mainstream alternatives, Edge and Chrome, have you literally logged into the browser with your MS/Google accounts, and can associate everything you do on the browser with your MS/Google account.
- simon04 5y ago
  Disable every Firefox anti-feature using https://ffprofile.com/ https://ffprofile.com/
  - fartcannon 5y ago
    I've been using Mull on Android and Librefox on Linux.
tristan957 5y ago
Will you be proposing any alternative revenue streams for Mozilla to use? Do you even know what data is being sent to the two listed domains? Or do you just see pings and that annoys you? > services.addons.mozilla.org Have you tried turn off addon auto updates? Could you please share what browser you use? > they run updates automatically This is a feature. Web browser updates are some of the most important updates on your device. Getting any lay person to update their browser is difficult. >your browser stops working until you restart it Untrue. Opening a new tab won't work, but your current tabs are still usable. Firefox will also open all your previously opened tabs after updating. Not really a huge disruption. I use Firefox on Windows and have never had this behavior fyi. Only on Linux. > You come across as a paid advertisement Completely unnecessary.
- Darmody 5y ago
  This is a feature. Web browser updates are some of the most important updates on your device. Getting any lay person to update their browser is difficult. A feature that keeps breaking my work every couple of weeks. It doesn't even allow me to restart when I'm ready. It forces me by not allowing me to open new tabs. I want to have control of my browser, not the other way around.
  - noisem4ker 5y ago
    The problem is that when the package manager does its updates it replaces Firefox' files while it is running, putting it into an inconsistent state, so Firefox rightfully enters a defensive mode and prevents you from doing stuff that could result in unpredictably broken behavior ("Why are new pages not loading correctly? Stupid fox, always breaking and needing to be restarted"). Blame Linux' package managers and Linux' liberal way of overwriting files that are in use*. On Windows, a Firefox-specific service takes care of updating the files in between runs, so you can continue using it until you want. * See also the recent introduction of Offline Updates in SystemD, showing how "Linux can do updates on a running system and does not need to be restarted" was always a farce and invisibly broke stuff.
    - watermelon0 5y ago
      I am fairly sure this also happens on macOS, where you cannot blame package manager.
    - johnklos 5y ago
      It's not the package manager that does this.
- johnklos 5y ago
freedomben 5y ago
> sending all of your browser DNS lookups to a company that protects spammers and scammers. Are you talking about Cloudflare?

rvz 5y ago

> There is no alternative to having Firefox. I'm using it as my primary browser and so should everybody else. Nope. Mozilla has proven to not be so privacy-friendly after all or even serious about it these days. At this point, one might as well just save yourself the pain and use Brave instead.

DanAtC 5y ago
Because Brave's crypto ad pyramid scheme is better?
- mixedCase 5y ago
  There's a button in the settings to disable it if you don't like it. I've never used it, so far it's the best browser I've used.
- fsflover 5y ago
  Or because Google deciding the direction of browser development is better.
akselmo 5y ago
Isnt brave just chrome (blink) with different clothes and tons of cryposcam ads

footlose_3815 5y ago

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akmittal 5y ago

Good that you are liking firefox. But i feel mozilla does not have same principles now a days. Or maybe their marketshare has made them desperate. I exclusively use Edge on mobile and Mac, it is great, support adblock on mobile and better privacy than chrome.