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A decent chunk of people in the previous thread were saying he’s doing it to kill the bot that tracks his plane’s movements. In general, he seems to be an acti

A decent chunk of people in the previous thread were saying he’s doing it to kill the bot that tracks his plane’s movements. In general, he seems to be an active enough user that there’s concerns he will use his new power as a way to shield himself from the consequences of his activity.

scop 5y ago
By "shield himself from the consequences of his activity" I think Elon literally meant "I don't want to get shot by some crazy person following my movements". No perfect solution, but I can get his motivation.
- manquer 5y ago
  Buying Twitter is hardly solving the problem. The content creator can just move to Facebook/Instagram or /tiktok or wherever.
- mynameisvlad 5y ago
  ADS data is public. Just because a Twitter bot puts it in a nice easy to digest format doesn't mean the data isn't out there, and there's nothing Elon or really anyone can do about it. It is trivial to track a plane if you have its tail number and Elon only flies on a small number of jets. And, no, by "shield himself from the consequences of his activities", I mean things like calling someone a pedophile on Twitter. He is one of the biggest Twitter drama quee s and it would be a lot easier to clean up his messes if he practically owns the company.
  - peeters 5y ago
    Plenty of things are public but are unethical to broadcast, and can range from benign to extremely creepy or harassment.
  - E4YomzYIN5YEBKe 5y ago
    Voter registrations make people's home addresses public information (in many states) but posting that on Twitter violates their doxxing rules.
    - mynameisvlad 5y ago
      Doxxing is very specific-- you are revealing the link between the pseudonymous account and the holder. Elon Musk is a public figure, and posts under his own account. Additionally, a jet plane, whether private or public, does not have any rights. You cannot "doxx" an airplane. Aside from the practical benefits that ADS-B provides, the public nature of it holds everyone accountable.
      - minhazm 5y ago
        Doxxing isn't only for pseudonymous accounts. There are people with actual profiles that use their real names on Twitter and with a little bit of research you can publish all kinds of personal information about them like their current address which can be a real safety issue and would definitely violate Twitter's TOS. > You cannot "doxx" an airplane. I think it's pretty obvious that Elon Musks plane will most likely have Elon Musk inside of it. So by doxxing the plane you're doxxing the person. Just think about the same example with a car of someone who may be receive a lot of negative attention, you can tweet out the location of their car and that may put them in harms way. The car has no rights either but revealing the information is still a safety issue. It's just that for planes the data is public because the idea of a plane identifying an individual location is not a common one since so few people own private planes. Another analogy is a bus vs a car. I think most people would be fine with a bus having live tracking and in fact many people depend on that, but for an individual car it doesn't make sense.
sebzim4500 5y ago
>A decent chunk of people in the previous thread were saying he’s doing it to kill the bot that tracks his plane’s movements Those people are idiots though. The kid said he would turn off the bot for $50k. You think Elon bought 9% of Twitter to avoid paying $50k?
- root_axis 5y ago
  I don't think it's about that, but I am absolutely sure that Musk would sooner pay 100x the cost in order to send a "fuck you" to someone that rankled him rather than take the ego hit and pay the 50k even if it's a pittance to him.
  - panick21_ 5y ago
    That a totally insane take. Maybe if it was Bezos or somebody. Not for some kid.
    - root_axis 5y ago
      Not insane at all, Elon has a long history of petty behavior.
      - panick21_ 5y ago
        Yeah he spends 9 billion to be petty against a random kid with a twitter account that just republished public information. Again, that's literally an insane thing to believe. If you can't see how insane that is I can't help you.
        root_axis 5y ago
        You keep saying "that's insane" as if that's supposed to mean something. "Richest guy on the planet makes a capricious stock investment"... yeah, totally insane lol. I won't go so far as to call you insane for not being able to imagine an edgy rich guy spending a lot of money for petty reasons, but I'll instead say that your refusal to even accept the idea as a possibility is a bit naive.

scop 5y ago

By "shield himself from the consequences of his activity" I think Elon literally meant "I don't want to get shot by some crazy person following my movements". No perfect solution, but I can get his motivation.

manquer 5y ago
Buying Twitter is hardly solving the problem. The content creator can just move to Facebook/Instagram or /tiktok or wherever.
mynameisvlad 5y ago
ADS data is public. Just because a Twitter bot puts it in a nice easy to digest format doesn't mean the data isn't out there, and there's nothing Elon or really anyone can do about it. It is trivial to track a plane if you have its tail number and Elon only flies on a small number of jets. And, no, by "shield himself from the consequences of his activities", I mean things like calling someone a pedophile on Twitter. He is one of the biggest Twitter drama quee s and it would be a lot easier to clean up his messes if he practically owns the company.
- peeters 5y ago
  Plenty of things are public but are unethical to broadcast, and can range from benign to extremely creepy or harassment.
- E4YomzYIN5YEBKe 5y ago
  Voter registrations make people's home addresses public information (in many states) but posting that on Twitter violates their doxxing rules.
  - mynameisvlad 5y ago
    Doxxing is very specific-- you are revealing the link between the pseudonymous account and the holder. Elon Musk is a public figure, and posts under his own account. Additionally, a jet plane, whether private or public, does not have any rights. You cannot "doxx" an airplane. Aside from the practical benefits that ADS-B provides, the public nature of it holds everyone accountable.
    - minhazm 5y ago
      Doxxing isn't only for pseudonymous accounts. There are people with actual profiles that use their real names on Twitter and with a little bit of research you can publish all kinds of personal information about them like their current address which can be a real safety issue and would definitely violate Twitter's TOS. > You cannot "doxx" an airplane. I think it's pretty obvious that Elon Musks plane will most likely have Elon Musk inside of it. So by doxxing the plane you're doxxing the person. Just think about the same example with a car of someone who may be receive a lot of negative attention, you can tweet out the location of their car and that may put them in harms way. The car has no rights either but revealing the information is still a safety issue. It's just that for planes the data is public because the idea of a plane identifying an individual location is not a common one since so few people own private planes. Another analogy is a bus vs a car. I think most people would be fine with a bus having live tracking and in fact many people depend on that, but for an individual car it doesn't make sense.

sebzim4500 5y ago

>A decent chunk of people in the previous thread were saying he’s doing it to kill the bot that tracks his plane’s movements Those people are idiots though. The kid said he would turn off the bot for $50k. You think Elon bought 9% of Twitter to avoid paying $50k?

root_axis 5y ago
I don't think it's about that, but I am absolutely sure that Musk would sooner pay 100x the cost in order to send a "fuck you" to someone that rankled him rather than take the ego hit and pay the 50k even if it's a pittance to him.
- panick21_ 5y ago
  That a totally insane take. Maybe if it was Bezos or somebody. Not for some kid.
  - root_axis 5y ago
    Not insane at all, Elon has a long history of petty behavior.
    - panick21_ 5y ago
      Yeah he spends 9 billion to be petty against a random kid with a twitter account that just republished public information. Again, that's literally an insane thing to believe. If you can't see how insane that is I can't help you.
      - root_axis 5y ago
        You keep saying "that's insane" as if that's supposed to mean something. "Richest guy on the planet makes a capricious stock investment"... yeah, totally insane lol. I won't go so far as to call you insane for not being able to imagine an edgy rich guy spending a lot of money for petty reasons, but I'll instead say that your refusal to even accept the idea as a possibility is a bit naive.