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I didn't care for /r/place this time around. It felt like a lazy and uninspired move by Reddit to just copy the exact same idea from 5 years ago. As pointless a

I didn't care for /r/place this time around. It felt like a lazy and uninspired move by Reddit to just copy the exact same idea from 5 years ago. As pointless as their other events were, like /r/the_button, at least they were unique. Not only that, it spoiled the treasured memory and experience of 2017. This year was so full of hate and fighting over flags, stream raids, bot scripts floating around, none of it felt genuine except maybe people keeping up with the Ukraine flag on day 1. In 2017 it closed with me thinking Reddittors came together to make some cool art, this year it closed with me wondering whether any humans were involved by the end.

KennyBlanken 5y ago
Not to mention the reddit admin who was constantly overwriting squares with no cooldown. They were doing it so much that it was clear they weren't just abusing their admin power but using a bot as well.
- colordrops 5y ago
  why was an admin overwriting squares?
  - snarkerson 5y ago
    Some images were not permitted. Like the American flag linked above. They rebuilt it but the original was wiped out by an admin user.
    - nemothekid 5y ago
      >original was wiped out by an admin user This isn't true at all. As I was following it, the original American flag was just being griefed.
    - zenexer 5y ago
      There were portions of the canvas wiped out by admins, but the American flag wasn’t among them. That was a coordinated griefing effort.
kuraudo 5y ago
The exposing of the cheating didn't help.
- silisili 5y ago
  For those unaware, https://www.reddit.com/r/place/comments/tv3hin/a_reddit_mod_is_cheating_and_the_mods_are/ https://www.reddit.com/r/place/comments/tv3hin/a_reddit_mod_... This -completely- ruined the entire narrative. It's not organic content, it's not even user generated content. It's whatever the employees wanted it to be. Gross.
  - treesknees 5y ago
    Apparently the cat being overwritten here has been in use as a mascot by a group of folks who were banned from Reddit. So I'm not sure it's as simple as stating that admins wanted to control the board, there could have been some abuse going on that we don't know about. >The Admins are currently at war with r/drama's offsite forum, who have been brigading Reddit. Last week the Admins banned lots of them permanently. So yesterday those brigaders drew their cat mascot in r/place, and the Admins used their powers to erase it. https://old.reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/tv2lmx/comment/i37dbwh/?context=3 https://old.reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/tv2lmx/comm...
    - Marsey 5y ago
      Full details are here, and it's just an orange cat: https://twitter.com/MarseyCat/status/1510733817937547272 https://twitter.com/MarseyCat/status/1510733817937547272 Reddit even tweeted a screenshot of it: https://twitter.com/Reddit/status/1509990348378058755 https://twitter.com/Reddit/status/1509990348378058755
      - treesknees 5y ago
        Sorry, you are misunderstanding me. I realize it's just an orange cat, but who placed the pixels on /r/place to create the cat image? That's what I'm referring to. Reference to "everyone" on their sub being banned by admins: https://old.reddit.com/r/Drama/comments/tty3fn/_/ https://old.reddit.com/r/Drama/comments/tty3fn/_/ If you go to their official site, you can clearly see (as of this comment) that they're using this cat as their mascot, and it's posted all over the place. https://rdrama.net https://rdrama.net So yes, it's "just a cat" except it's being used in a specific way. And no, reddit didn't tweet an image of the cat. They responded to someone else's screenshot of /r/place.
badsoftware 5y ago
Bottling was an issue in 2017 too.
- MisterBiggs 5y ago
  From the linked article: > The API should be generally open and transparent so the reddit community can build on it (bots, extensions, data collection, external visualizations, etc) if they choose to do so. They specifically made r/place (at least in 2017) to be easy to bot. Without botting I don't think individual users could coordinate well enough against spam to build some of the more complex art.
asfbfbino 5y ago
zamadatix 5y ago
It was tweaked quite a bit. Canvas expansion over time, palette expansion over time, wait time modified to a flat 5 minutes, and a completely different ending come to mind. Of course this time there were also ~5x as many tiles placed per hour as well. If all that counts for is a lazy uninspired move to copy the exact same thing then sign me up for more lazy uninspired events. Your memory of 2017 seems to be more nostalgia than reality as much of the same occurred in regards to both good sentiment and bad during it - it was only looking back that everything seemed perfect. Many people hated rainbowroad, thebluecorner, flags, and similar groups just the same in 2017. Bots weren't the invention of the last 5 years either. If you look at the 2022 canvas and the only genuine interaction you see is the Ukrainian flag then you're simply ignoring the good parts to leave focus on the bad. If I had to focus on the biggest difference between 2017 and 2022 I'd actually say it was the amount of attention large streamers drove to it all. There were plenty of streamers in 2017 but in 2022 pretty much all major view count streamers were treating it as a multi-day content event between each other instead of really being tied to what was being coordinated from Reddit communities interacting. I hope they do another one in another 5 years. My favorite part of this year was seeing placestart manage to get the XP start menu in after the final expansion. It was my favorite part of the first one and it was good to see it get some tweaks as well.
8note 5y ago
If anything is to be repeated, Reddit mold would be my first choice

KennyBlanken 5y ago

Not to mention the reddit admin who was constantly overwriting squares with no cooldown. They were doing it so much that it was clear they weren't just abusing their admin power but using a bot as well.

colordrops 5y ago
why was an admin overwriting squares?
- snarkerson 5y ago
  Some images were not permitted. Like the American flag linked above. They rebuilt it but the original was wiped out by an admin user.
  - nemothekid 5y ago
    >original was wiped out by an admin user This isn't true at all. As I was following it, the original American flag was just being griefed.
  - zenexer 5y ago
    There were portions of the canvas wiped out by admins, but the American flag wasn’t among them. That was a coordinated griefing effort.

kuraudo 5y ago

The exposing of the cheating didn't help.

silisili 5y ago
For those unaware, https://www.reddit.com/r/place/comments/tv3hin/a_reddit_mod_is_cheating_and_the_mods_are/ https://www.reddit.com/r/place/comments/tv3hin/a_reddit_mod_... This -completely- ruined the entire narrative. It's not organic content, it's not even user generated content. It's whatever the employees wanted it to be. Gross.
- treesknees 5y ago
  Apparently the cat being overwritten here has been in use as a mascot by a group of folks who were banned from Reddit. So I'm not sure it's as simple as stating that admins wanted to control the board, there could have been some abuse going on that we don't know about. >The Admins are currently at war with r/drama's offsite forum, who have been brigading Reddit. Last week the Admins banned lots of them permanently. So yesterday those brigaders drew their cat mascot in r/place, and the Admins used their powers to erase it. https://old.reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/tv2lmx/comment/i37dbwh/?context=3 https://old.reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/tv2lmx/comm...
  - Marsey 5y ago
    Full details are here, and it's just an orange cat: https://twitter.com/MarseyCat/status/1510733817937547272 https://twitter.com/MarseyCat/status/1510733817937547272 Reddit even tweeted a screenshot of it: https://twitter.com/Reddit/status/1509990348378058755 https://twitter.com/Reddit/status/1509990348378058755
    - treesknees 5y ago
      Sorry, you are misunderstanding me. I realize it's just an orange cat, but who placed the pixels on /r/place to create the cat image? That's what I'm referring to. Reference to "everyone" on their sub being banned by admins: https://old.reddit.com/r/Drama/comments/tty3fn/_/ https://old.reddit.com/r/Drama/comments/tty3fn/_/ If you go to their official site, you can clearly see (as of this comment) that they're using this cat as their mascot, and it's posted all over the place. https://rdrama.net https://rdrama.net So yes, it's "just a cat" except it's being used in a specific way. And no, reddit didn't tweet an image of the cat. They responded to someone else's screenshot of /r/place.

badsoftware 5y ago

Bottling was an issue in 2017 too.

MisterBiggs 5y ago
From the linked article: > The API should be generally open and transparent so the reddit community can build on it (bots, extensions, data collection, external visualizations, etc) if they choose to do so. They specifically made r/place (at least in 2017) to be easy to bot. Without botting I don't think individual users could coordinate well enough against spam to build some of the more complex art.

asfbfbino 5y ago

zamadatix 5y ago

It was tweaked quite a bit. Canvas expansion over time, palette expansion over time, wait time modified to a flat 5 minutes, and a completely different ending come to mind. Of course this time there were also ~5x as many tiles placed per hour as well. If all that counts for is a lazy uninspired move to copy the exact same thing then sign me up for more lazy uninspired events. Your memory of 2017 seems to be more nostalgia than reality as much of the same occurred in regards to both good sentiment and bad during it - it was only looking back that everything seemed perfect. Many people hated rainbowroad, thebluecorner, flags, and similar groups just the same in 2017. Bots weren't the invention of the last 5 years either. If you look at the 2022 canvas and the only genuine interaction you see is the Ukrainian flag then you're simply ignoring the good parts to leave focus on the bad. If I had to focus on the biggest difference between 2017 and 2022 I'd actually say it was the amount of attention large streamers drove to it all. There were plenty of streamers in 2017 but in 2022 pretty much all major view count streamers were treating it as a multi-day content event between each other instead of really being tied to what was being coordinated from Reddit communities interacting. I hope they do another one in another 5 years. My favorite part of this year was seeing placestart manage to get the XP start menu in after the final expansion. It was my favorite part of the first one and it was good to see it get some tweaks as well.

8note 5y ago

If anything is to be repeated, Reddit mold would be my first choice