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It was divisive everywhere. I saw so many posts from folks arguing why X or Y shouldn't be on the board, or shouldn't use up so much space, or how flags were to

It was divisive everywhere. I saw so many posts from folks arguing why X or Y shouldn't be on the board, or shouldn't use up so much space, or how flags were too boring. I stopped playing after the first day because of all the anger around it.

zeven7 5y ago
I saw a lot of people having fun and didn't see people getting really angry. Though I'm sure there were people actually getting angry, that happens with every game. Maybe those people should relax more, but ¯\_(ツ)_/¯. I was part of a community maintaining a small logo that got attacked a few times, and we repaired it - part of the fun. I agree with the people who think a canvas full of flags is kind of boring and wish people didn't jump so quickly into nationalistic identities as a way to express themselves, but ¯\_(ツ)_/¯.
- _jesseb 5y ago
  Yeah I was part of a community that coordinated several logos/art pieces and it was a lot of fun. Almost all of the communities in the area we were in banded together into an alliance and we beat off a bunch of attacks, mainly streamers who thought we looked like easy pickings. Agreed on the flags though, they're just so boring. At least a lot of the flags ended up with artwork on them this time though. Some of the big streamers were pretty irritating too, they just seemed like they wanted to ruin peoples fun. I don't mind chaos but it's more interesting if it's a swarm like the void and not just some guy screaming into a mic to attack a random spot.
  - distances 5y ago
    I think the flags with artwork were brilliant. People coming together and deciding plus coordinating what should be the cultural piece they wanted to be immortalised in the limited space. I didn't participate in placing the pixels but spent some good time just browsing the flags and deciphering the references placed on them.
- bwoodward 5y ago
  This was also my experience. I was jumping between F1 and Star Wars and had a great time maintaining and branching out. I was really impressed by the level of detail as more shades were introduced.
ASalazarMX 5y ago
A good chunk of that anger was because of trolls. People extending someone else's flag over other's artwork, random streamers calling their followers for vandalism, and general griefing. Since regular users are limited to one pixel every five minutes, it can be exasperating to see their effort erased in a few seconds.
- istorical 5y ago
  You might be missing the point of those who disagree with your take, which is to call those who want to do different things on /r/Place than you 'trolls' or 'griefers' is itself just you projecting your own value judgment onto them, or acting as if you are the judge of what is right and wrong. From the perspective of someone who likes /r/theblackvoid, the pixel artists coloring over the void are just trolls and griefers. So the parent would refer to anyone 'complaining' about other users as unnecessarily angry. Whether it's a flag person mad that some other flag or art or void or whatever is drawing over their flag, or whether it's a void person mad at the flag person, or whether its a pixel artist mad at the flag person, it's all just people projecting their own preference as if its some moral imperative. Who are you to say that streamers shouldn't use their followers to leave a mark? Or that chaos and randomly placing pixels isn't a valid goal? You may personally find it really stupid and annoying. I personally find baseball really stupid and annoying. But I wouldn't refer to people who enjoy baseball as trolls. Dr. Seuss' butter battle is the perfect illustration. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Butter_Battle_Book https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Butter_Battle_Book
  - ASalazarMX 5y ago
    r/Place is inherently organized chaos, so anyone can leave their mark if they are able to. Unfortunately there's a sizable subset of people that don't want to leave a mark, and only want to vandalize other's marks, participating solely to draw funny eyes, broken teeth, penises, or simply erase whole sections. I'd go as far as to qualify people who practiced r/TheBlackVoid in the canvas as antisocial, since filling a single-color void requires very little cooperation between themselves.
    - 5y ago

zeven7 5y ago

I saw a lot of people having fun and didn't see people getting really angry. Though I'm sure there were people actually getting angry, that happens with every game. Maybe those people should relax more, but ¯\_(ツ)_/¯. I was part of a community maintaining a small logo that got attacked a few times, and we repaired it - part of the fun. I agree with the people who think a canvas full of flags is kind of boring and wish people didn't jump so quickly into nationalistic identities as a way to express themselves, but ¯\_(ツ)_/¯.

_jesseb 5y ago
Yeah I was part of a community that coordinated several logos/art pieces and it was a lot of fun. Almost all of the communities in the area we were in banded together into an alliance and we beat off a bunch of attacks, mainly streamers who thought we looked like easy pickings. Agreed on the flags though, they're just so boring. At least a lot of the flags ended up with artwork on them this time though. Some of the big streamers were pretty irritating too, they just seemed like they wanted to ruin peoples fun. I don't mind chaos but it's more interesting if it's a swarm like the void and not just some guy screaming into a mic to attack a random spot.
- distances 5y ago
  I think the flags with artwork were brilliant. People coming together and deciding plus coordinating what should be the cultural piece they wanted to be immortalised in the limited space. I didn't participate in placing the pixels but spent some good time just browsing the flags and deciphering the references placed on them.
bwoodward 5y ago
This was also my experience. I was jumping between F1 and Star Wars and had a great time maintaining and branching out. I was really impressed by the level of detail as more shades were introduced.

ASalazarMX 5y ago

A good chunk of that anger was because of trolls. People extending someone else's flag over other's artwork, random streamers calling their followers for vandalism, and general griefing. Since regular users are limited to one pixel every five minutes, it can be exasperating to see their effort erased in a few seconds.

istorical 5y ago
You might be missing the point of those who disagree with your take, which is to call those who want to do different things on /r/Place than you 'trolls' or 'griefers' is itself just you projecting your own value judgment onto them, or acting as if you are the judge of what is right and wrong. From the perspective of someone who likes /r/theblackvoid, the pixel artists coloring over the void are just trolls and griefers. So the parent would refer to anyone 'complaining' about other users as unnecessarily angry. Whether it's a flag person mad that some other flag or art or void or whatever is drawing over their flag, or whether it's a void person mad at the flag person, or whether its a pixel artist mad at the flag person, it's all just people projecting their own preference as if its some moral imperative. Who are you to say that streamers shouldn't use their followers to leave a mark? Or that chaos and randomly placing pixels isn't a valid goal? You may personally find it really stupid and annoying. I personally find baseball really stupid and annoying. But I wouldn't refer to people who enjoy baseball as trolls. Dr. Seuss' butter battle is the perfect illustration. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Butter_Battle_Book https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Butter_Battle_Book
- ASalazarMX 5y ago
  r/Place is inherently organized chaos, so anyone can leave their mark if they are able to. Unfortunately there's a sizable subset of people that don't want to leave a mark, and only want to vandalize other's marks, participating solely to draw funny eyes, broken teeth, penises, or simply erase whole sections. I'd go as far as to qualify people who practiced r/TheBlackVoid in the canvas as antisocial, since filling a single-color void requires very little cooperation between themselves.
  - 5y ago