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We need investigation but not to find out what happened but to find out how it exactly happened and who is directly responsible for these specific acts. We alr

We need investigation but not to find out what happened but to find out how it exactly happened and who is directly responsible for these specific acts. We already know who is responsible for all these acts together. These are not random events. What has happened is not accident. This is systematic genocide organized on highest level https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/kremlin-editorial-ukraine-identity-1.6407921 https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/kremlin-editorial-ukraine-iden...

ailef 5y ago
The Pentagon cannot confirm the atrocities, yet you already know both what happened and who did it.
- celticninja 5y ago
  Have a look at some of the OSINT accounts on twitter. They show footage of killings, date stamped to show they occured during Russia's occupation, they show dead bodies in the streets for days or weeks before the Ukrainian armed forces liberated the towns. The evidence is there, your statement implies only the Pentagon can confirm or deny the truth. Actually the pentagon isn't independent enough to be able to confirm these attrocities.
- celticninja 5y ago
  https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/satellite-images-show-civilian-deaths-ukraine-town-while-it-was-russian-hands-2022-04-05/ https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/satellite-images-show-c...
- eveningcoffee 5y ago
  Pentagon is thousands of miles away. Why should I care? First video of dead bodies was published on 1st April. Russian forces left on 31st March. Here https://twitter.com/ViktoriiaUAH/status/1509985789404459011 https://twitter.com/ViktoriiaUAH/status/1509985789404459011 is the video from where I learned about roadside killings. It has been recorded latest 1st April afternoon.
  - ailef 5y ago
    The Pentagon includes the most powerful intelligence agencies in the world. They also are providing military intelligence to Ukraine that, according to many sources, has proven to be very valuable in countering the Russians. But they have no intelligence that can corroborate the Ukrainian version in this case. I find that highly relevant. I don't understand what distance has to do with it, given that it's pretty obvious the Pentagon has intelligence officers on the ground in Ukraine. A video is hardly conclusive evidence, especially in a conflict where both parts have a strong interest in pushing out their own narrative.

ailef 5y ago

The Pentagon cannot confirm the atrocities, yet you already know both what happened and who did it.

celticninja 5y ago
Have a look at some of the OSINT accounts on twitter. They show footage of killings, date stamped to show they occured during Russia's occupation, they show dead bodies in the streets for days or weeks before the Ukrainian armed forces liberated the towns. The evidence is there, your statement implies only the Pentagon can confirm or deny the truth. Actually the pentagon isn't independent enough to be able to confirm these attrocities.
celticninja 5y ago
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/satellite-images-show-civilian-deaths-ukraine-town-while-it-was-russian-hands-2022-04-05/ https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/satellite-images-show-c...
eveningcoffee 5y ago
Pentagon is thousands of miles away. Why should I care? First video of dead bodies was published on 1st April. Russian forces left on 31st March. Here https://twitter.com/ViktoriiaUAH/status/1509985789404459011 https://twitter.com/ViktoriiaUAH/status/1509985789404459011 is the video from where I learned about roadside killings. It has been recorded latest 1st April afternoon.
- ailef 5y ago
  The Pentagon includes the most powerful intelligence agencies in the world. They also are providing military intelligence to Ukraine that, according to many sources, has proven to be very valuable in countering the Russians. But they have no intelligence that can corroborate the Ukrainian version in this case. I find that highly relevant. I don't understand what distance has to do with it, given that it's pretty obvious the Pentagon has intelligence officers on the ground in Ukraine. A video is hardly conclusive evidence, especially in a conflict where both parts have a strong interest in pushing out their own narrative.