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The first one is gaining just enough money that I can ponder the meaning of life. The second one is pondering the meaning of life.

by pif 5y ago

crate_barre 5y ago
I’m mostly just interested in the first one. That peace of mind is peace, and that’s good enough value from the treasure trove of value from the meaning of life for me. “Money isn’t everything but not having it is” - Kanye
- fundad 5y ago
  And justice is incredibly expensive
- chasd00 5y ago
  Also, "money doesn't buy happiness but it's more comfortable to cry in a Mercedes"
  - yetihehe 5y ago
    Money gives you freedom to pursue your happinness.
    - JackFr 5y ago
      Money gives you the illusion of freedom to pursue your happiness.
      - crate_barre 5y ago
        Then you to see the reality of misery with limited money.
  - dimitrios1 5y ago
    and, "I know everybody says money can't buy happiness, but it could buy me a boat, a truck to pull it, and a Yeti 110 iced down with some silver bullets"
- abledon 5y ago
  > That peace of mind is peace Kanye has peace of mind?
  - crate_barre 5y ago
    Well, I think there are sweet spots for every bracket of wealth. For most of us, having a job and a home that we can reasonably keep until our dying days without living on our knees is the sweet spot. Once you cross into fame and multi million or multi billion (Kanye, Elon), that sweet spot is nothing to them. Their sweet spot is influence, impact, and the like. In their bracket I think few reached a sweet spot without tarnishing their desired presentation. Someone like Bezos is looked at as a villain, so he didn’t get it. Bill Gates is one or two allegations away from affairs and Epstein stuff being leaked. Warren Buffet is somewhat at the sweet spot but he is a much older man who doesn’t need the validation that Elon needs. In other words, their sweet spots are about as hard to hit as our sweet spots (financial well being).
    - JackFr 5y ago
      I'm not quite sure what you mean by sweet spot. I think all of the folks you mention really don't give a crap about what people think of them.
      - deleted 5y ago
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- JackFr 5y ago
  > “Money isn’t everything but not having it is” - Kanye The thing is returns start diminshing faster than people realize. Once you get yourself housed, fed and clothed its much more of a hamster wheel than people are often willing to admit to themselves, at the expense of their own happiness.
  - obese44 5y ago
    Can confirm, recently doubled my income. Still dead inside.
  - fundad 5y ago
    Most Americans aren't one traffic stop away from a huge legal bill AND medical bill (if you survive). For the rest of us, the returns diminish after a somewhat larger buffer.
- 52-6F-62 5y ago
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0QCBBDDd3AM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0QCBBDDd3AM
CyanLite4 5y ago
The hardest part of this type of journey is realizing you don’t need money to be happy or feel contentment. It may not make sense right now, but you may spend the next decade or so chasing money to get to a point of contentment only to realize that you’re chasing after money because you think it’s going to give you peace. The turn is when you figure out money doesn’t give you peace. Contentment, happiness are choices. They aren’t milestones that can be achieved, or goals to be met. They are choices just like choosing what color shirt to wear in the morning. Source: myself who has been terribly poor, and eventually wealthy. I’d rather have back the lost decades of career and status chasing than any of the money I gained.
- b20000 5y ago
  the main issue is that housing costs money no matter where you live in the westernized world.
- 1270018080 5y ago
  Not working would make me very content. I'm going to need money for that.
- onpensionsterm 5y ago
  So if you become content with your money and then find you have medical or retirement bills that your contentment failed to plan for, what happens next? Do you choose to be happy about foreclosure? Money is the thing that frees up your time and mental bandwidth for what matters.
- caente 5y ago
  > It may not make sense right now, but you may spend the next decade or so chasing money to get to a point of contentment only to realize that you’re chasing after money because you think it’s going to give you peace. The turn is when you figure out money doesn’t give you peace. it does give me peace, it relaxes me to know my son will have food and shelter. That we'll be able to pay for learning resources and fun things. It helps to know that, if things get a bit rough, we will have some money to hold on until things get better. It relaxes me to know that if any of us get sick, we'll be able to pay the bills... hopefully.

The first one is gaining just enough money that I can ponder the meaning of life. The second one is pondering the meaning of life.

by pif 5y ago

The first one is gaining just enough money that I can ponder the meaning of life. The second one is pondering the meaning of life.

crate_barre 5y ago

I’m mostly just interested in the first one. That peace of mind is peace, and that’s good enough value from the treasure trove of value from the meaning of life for me. “Money isn’t everything but not having it is” - Kanye

fundad 5y ago
And justice is incredibly expensive
chasd00 5y ago
Also, "money doesn't buy happiness but it's more comfortable to cry in a Mercedes"
- yetihehe 5y ago
  Money gives you freedom to pursue your happinness.
  - JackFr 5y ago
    Money gives you the illusion of freedom to pursue your happiness.
    - crate_barre 5y ago
      Then you to see the reality of misery with limited money.
- dimitrios1 5y ago
  and, "I know everybody says money can't buy happiness, but it could buy me a boat, a truck to pull it, and a Yeti 110 iced down with some silver bullets"
abledon 5y ago
> That peace of mind is peace Kanye has peace of mind?
- crate_barre 5y ago
  Well, I think there are sweet spots for every bracket of wealth. For most of us, having a job and a home that we can reasonably keep until our dying days without living on our knees is the sweet spot. Once you cross into fame and multi million or multi billion (Kanye, Elon), that sweet spot is nothing to them. Their sweet spot is influence, impact, and the like. In their bracket I think few reached a sweet spot without tarnishing their desired presentation. Someone like Bezos is looked at as a villain, so he didn’t get it. Bill Gates is one or two allegations away from affairs and Epstein stuff being leaked. Warren Buffet is somewhat at the sweet spot but he is a much older man who doesn’t need the validation that Elon needs. In other words, their sweet spots are about as hard to hit as our sweet spots (financial well being).
  - JackFr 5y ago
    I'm not quite sure what you mean by sweet spot. I think all of the folks you mention really don't give a crap about what people think of them.
    - deleted 5y ago
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JackFr 5y ago
> “Money isn’t everything but not having it is” - Kanye The thing is returns start diminshing faster than people realize. Once you get yourself housed, fed and clothed its much more of a hamster wheel than people are often willing to admit to themselves, at the expense of their own happiness.
- obese44 5y ago
  Can confirm, recently doubled my income. Still dead inside.
- fundad 5y ago
  Most Americans aren't one traffic stop away from a huge legal bill AND medical bill (if you survive). For the rest of us, the returns diminish after a somewhat larger buffer.
52-6F-62 5y ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0QCBBDDd3AM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0QCBBDDd3AM

CyanLite4 5y ago

The hardest part of this type of journey is realizing you don’t need money to be happy or feel contentment. It may not make sense right now, but you may spend the next decade or so chasing money to get to a point of contentment only to realize that you’re chasing after money because you think it’s going to give you peace. The turn is when you figure out money doesn’t give you peace. Contentment, happiness are choices. They aren’t milestones that can be achieved, or goals to be met. They are choices just like choosing what color shirt to wear in the morning. Source: myself who has been terribly poor, and eventually wealthy. I’d rather have back the lost decades of career and status chasing than any of the money I gained.

b20000 5y ago
the main issue is that housing costs money no matter where you live in the westernized world.
1270018080 5y ago
Not working would make me very content. I'm going to need money for that.
onpensionsterm 5y ago
So if you become content with your money and then find you have medical or retirement bills that your contentment failed to plan for, what happens next? Do you choose to be happy about foreclosure? Money is the thing that frees up your time and mental bandwidth for what matters.
caente 5y ago
> It may not make sense right now, but you may spend the next decade or so chasing money to get to a point of contentment only to realize that you’re chasing after money because you think it’s going to give you peace. The turn is when you figure out money doesn’t give you peace. it does give me peace, it relaxes me to know my son will have food and shelter. That we'll be able to pay for learning resources and fun things. It helps to know that, if things get a bit rough, we will have some money to hold on until things get better. It relaxes me to know that if any of us get sick, we'll be able to pay the bills... hopefully.