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This is a dispute between Germany and Russia. I'm not sure what US assassinations of middle eastern war lords have to do with it.

1over137 5y ago
Hmmm, the larger dispute is between NATO and Russia. The USA is the head of NATO.
- ganzuul 5y ago
  If this insane idea that the sovereign nations of Europe have no agency of their own comes from American "news"-branded edutainment, I dearly suggest you defenestrate your television set. It is clearly rotting minds.
  - mrguyorama 5y ago
    It tends to come from russian propaganda efforts. They have to make this look like they're fighting the US and not a bunch of sovereign, not enemy nations.
  - _3u10 5y ago
    For a “sovereign” nation Germany is awfully dependent on Putin for energy and the US for defense. My position is not that Germany has no agency it’s that it traded away it’s much of its agency to appease the Greens. These opinions come not from American TV but from my relatives. Freistaat Bayern uber alles! Sorry about taking over Europe again, hope you are enjoying the EU dictating your countries economic fortunes.
    - ganzuul 5y ago
      Talk like that gets you World War 3.
      - _3u10 5y ago
        If people spent more time walking and less time talking world war 3 wouldn’t have already started.
  - holoduke 5y ago
    Hardly any euro state has real power when it comes to real decisions. Most of the euro states are politically heavily influenced by financial injections from the US. Military bases everywhere. US companies everywhere. All tech is dominated by the US. Of course Russia sees the US as the master country and euro countries as their puppets.
    - Traster 5y ago
      If you really want to go down that road, it's Russia's gas that runs eastern Europe, not US cash. Yet still, Germany tells Russia where to stick it. This is quite clearly not an economic decision.
      - ThalesX 5y ago
        > If you really want to go down that road, it's Russia's gas that runs eastern Europe, not US cash. Imports of Russian gas (in billion cubic meters) as of 2020: - Germany (42.6) - Italy (29.2) - Belarus (18.8) - Turkey (16.2) - Nertherlands (15.7) - Hungary (11.6) - Kazakhstan (10.2) - Poland (9.6) - China (9.2) - Japan (8.8) Oh how our East European borders have grown... This is going to come off as agressive and whatever but I just really wish people like you that don't have any idea what they are talking about would just shut up already and stop polluting the internet with unfounded opinions.

1over137 5y ago

Hmmm, the larger dispute is between NATO and Russia. The USA is the head of NATO.

ganzuul 5y ago
If this insane idea that the sovereign nations of Europe have no agency of their own comes from American "news"-branded edutainment, I dearly suggest you defenestrate your television set. It is clearly rotting minds.
- mrguyorama 5y ago
  It tends to come from russian propaganda efforts. They have to make this look like they're fighting the US and not a bunch of sovereign, not enemy nations.
- _3u10 5y ago
  For a “sovereign” nation Germany is awfully dependent on Putin for energy and the US for defense. My position is not that Germany has no agency it’s that it traded away it’s much of its agency to appease the Greens. These opinions come not from American TV but from my relatives. Freistaat Bayern uber alles! Sorry about taking over Europe again, hope you are enjoying the EU dictating your countries economic fortunes.
  - ganzuul 5y ago
    Talk like that gets you World War 3.
    - _3u10 5y ago
      If people spent more time walking and less time talking world war 3 wouldn’t have already started.
- holoduke 5y ago
  Hardly any euro state has real power when it comes to real decisions. Most of the euro states are politically heavily influenced by financial injections from the US. Military bases everywhere. US companies everywhere. All tech is dominated by the US. Of course Russia sees the US as the master country and euro countries as their puppets.
  - Traster 5y ago
    If you really want to go down that road, it's Russia's gas that runs eastern Europe, not US cash. Yet still, Germany tells Russia where to stick it. This is quite clearly not an economic decision.
    - ThalesX 5y ago
      > If you really want to go down that road, it's Russia's gas that runs eastern Europe, not US cash. Imports of Russian gas (in billion cubic meters) as of 2020: - Germany (42.6) - Italy (29.2) - Belarus (18.8) - Turkey (16.2) - Nertherlands (15.7) - Hungary (11.6) - Kazakhstan (10.2) - Poland (9.6) - China (9.2) - Japan (8.8) Oh how our East European borders have grown... This is going to come off as agressive and whatever but I just really wish people like you that don't have any idea what they are talking about would just shut up already and stop polluting the internet with unfounded opinions.