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Yep... Putin blocking media ... sure... dictators block stuff all the time. EU blocking RT.com (and a few others) was quite a shock for me,... really a thing

Yep... Putin blocking media ... sure... dictators block stuff all the time. EU blocking RT.com (and a few others) was quite a shock for me,... really a thing that should not be happening in EU (no matter whose propaganda it is).

toxik 5y ago
Agreed, I was also surprised that the EU would do the very thing that is supposed to set it apart: media censorship.
- viraptor 5y ago
  RT was targeted multiple times in the past - this is not exactly a new thing. RT itself was not really censored either (not in the way specific information is outright illegal in Russia for example) - you can still go to the source if you really want to. (See the comment below about domain blocking though) They're just forbidden from using the national broadcast, since that was always controlled by various orgs. In most EU countries you get in trouble for lying in adverts, (https://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/consumer/consumer_laws/advertising.html#lb6e52 https://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/consumer/consumer_laws...) so I'm not surprised Russian-gov-masquerading-as-news got affected too.
  - ajsnigrutin 5y ago
    Many ISPs have blocked rt.com domains on their DNS servers eg. in belgium: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Websites_blocked_in_Belgium#EU-ordered_blocked_websites https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Websites_blocked_in_Belgium#EU...
  - toxik 5y ago
    Thank you for this nuance. I thought it sounded crazy.
- qiskit 5y ago
  EU has been at the forefront of censorship. Germany is a model for internet censorship around the world. https://foreignpolicy.com/2019/11/06/germany-online-crackdowns-inspired-the-worlds-dictators-russia-venezuela-india/ https://foreignpolicy.com/2019/11/06/germany-online-crackdow... It's funny how people think EU or europe in general is a bastion of freedom. It's not. Never has been. And never will be. What europe is exceptional at is self-promotion and virtue signaling.
mopsi 5y ago
> EU blocking RT.com (and a few others) was quite a shock for me,... really a thing that should not be happening in EU (no matter whose propaganda it is). Why? Neo-nazi sites have a long history of getting banned everywhere.

toxik 5y ago

Agreed, I was also surprised that the EU would do the very thing that is supposed to set it apart: media censorship.

viraptor 5y ago
RT was targeted multiple times in the past - this is not exactly a new thing. RT itself was not really censored either (not in the way specific information is outright illegal in Russia for example) - you can still go to the source if you really want to. (See the comment below about domain blocking though) They're just forbidden from using the national broadcast, since that was always controlled by various orgs. In most EU countries you get in trouble for lying in adverts, (https://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/consumer/consumer_laws/advertising.html#lb6e52 https://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/consumer/consumer_laws...) so I'm not surprised Russian-gov-masquerading-as-news got affected too.
- ajsnigrutin 5y ago
  Many ISPs have blocked rt.com domains on their DNS servers eg. in belgium: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Websites_blocked_in_Belgium#EU-ordered_blocked_websites https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Websites_blocked_in_Belgium#EU...
- toxik 5y ago
  Thank you for this nuance. I thought it sounded crazy.
qiskit 5y ago
EU has been at the forefront of censorship. Germany is a model for internet censorship around the world. https://foreignpolicy.com/2019/11/06/germany-online-crackdowns-inspired-the-worlds-dictators-russia-venezuela-india/ https://foreignpolicy.com/2019/11/06/germany-online-crackdow... It's funny how people think EU or europe in general is a bastion of freedom. It's not. Never has been. And never will be. What europe is exceptional at is self-promotion and virtue signaling.

mopsi 5y ago

> EU blocking RT.com (and a few others) was quite a shock for me,... really a thing that should not be happening in EU (no matter whose propaganda it is). Why? Neo-nazi sites have a long history of getting banned everywhere.