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I wonder if in the end this will be like another Eternal September as with the introduction of Cell Phones w/ 3G+ and AOL.

Aachen 5y ago
> like another Eternal September I'm not sure what you're saying. Am I misreading your comment when it sounds to me like you're afraid of the situation in which currently-poorer places can have Internet access, as though they'll be less civilised than the mostly rich constituents of today? (Assuming that Amazon or whoever figures that the sats have virtually no load while over those countries anyhow and they might as well make it cheaper than a land connection would otherwise be.)
- rootsudo 5y ago
  No, in the same sense that carrier/telecom deployed cheap phones, and more and more people online without understand what they are leaving on the table. Then they'll assume the "internet" is really just "facebook" as there is no net neutrality in "currently poorer places" to use your vocabulary. Then their Internet experience becomes paywalled, or gatekeeped and dependent on foreign businesses instead of local infrastructure, meaning that if USA demands/wishes to drop content or dns resolving such as youtube dropping Russian News regardless of opinion, it just doesn't follow Alphabet/Google's Narrative to the point of USA not having a direct hand in manipulating how searches work and such per demand of USA based ISP's such as Starlink, Amazon and etc.
  - Aachen 5y ago
    Okay, but that is not what eternal September means: > The only exception to this was September of every year, when large numbers of first-year college students gained access to the internet and Usenet through their universities. These large groups of new users who had not yet learned online etiquette created a nuisance for the experienced users [...] lamenting what they saw as an increase in low quality posts https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eternal_September https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eternal_September (Phrasing it less politically correctly, it sounded like you thought the poor countries would be savages coming without our western etiquette norms to invade our Internet. Apparently you found an entirely different definition of ES somewhere that isn't about etiquette.)

Aachen 5y ago

> like another Eternal September I'm not sure what you're saying. Am I misreading your comment when it sounds to me like you're afraid of the situation in which currently-poorer places can have Internet access, as though they'll be less civilised than the mostly rich constituents of today? (Assuming that Amazon or whoever figures that the sats have virtually no load while over those countries anyhow and they might as well make it cheaper than a land connection would otherwise be.)

rootsudo 5y ago
No, in the same sense that carrier/telecom deployed cheap phones, and more and more people online without understand what they are leaving on the table. Then they'll assume the "internet" is really just "facebook" as there is no net neutrality in "currently poorer places" to use your vocabulary. Then their Internet experience becomes paywalled, or gatekeeped and dependent on foreign businesses instead of local infrastructure, meaning that if USA demands/wishes to drop content or dns resolving such as youtube dropping Russian News regardless of opinion, it just doesn't follow Alphabet/Google's Narrative to the point of USA not having a direct hand in manipulating how searches work and such per demand of USA based ISP's such as Starlink, Amazon and etc.
- Aachen 5y ago
  Okay, but that is not what eternal September means: > The only exception to this was September of every year, when large numbers of first-year college students gained access to the internet and Usenet through their universities. These large groups of new users who had not yet learned online etiquette created a nuisance for the experienced users [...] lamenting what they saw as an increase in low quality posts https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eternal_September https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eternal_September (Phrasing it less politically correctly, it sounded like you thought the poor countries would be savages coming without our western etiquette norms to invade our Internet. Apparently you found an entirely different definition of ES somewhere that isn't about etiquette.)