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How To Lead Clever People

76 points by andrewl 15y ago

michaelochurch 15y ago
Managing the smartest people isn't impossible "cat herding" and it's not some obscure science. The trick is to realize how they got smart: by fighting the system to learn more than they should. They're rule-breakers but they also have a deep respect for learning, courage, and effort. Such people need to be mentored, and they need to feel favored (which is politically messy). If they feel like the people "in charge" are looking out for them and moving political obstacles out of their way, they'll be loyal. If they don't feel that way, they'll do what they think will teach them. Remember how they got smart: fighting the system, breaking rules. Getting an education by "stealing" it from a boss is natural to them.
DevX101 15y ago
The article is based on a compelling premise, but the analysis is often generic enough to be meaningless and leaves much to be desired. Most of the do's and don't infographic were either false or obvious. Example, Do: 'Talk Straight'. Don't: 'Use bull or deceive'. Really? I'm pretty sure this advice applies to every management position in existence outside of politics. I'd like to see an in-depth analysis of why the best engineers go to Google, but not AOL. I'd like to see more empirical based analysis on how to keep incredibly smart people to stay at your organization even though they're sharp enough and confident enough to go out on their own. It seems he's pushing a book about 'Clever Management'. I haven't read the book but if this article is any indication it will be one of those 80% filler business books that you read and walk away feeling like you didn't really learn anything new or non-obvious.
- medinism 15y ago
  Agreed. The article was shallow and unimaginative. I was hoping for some nugget around what makes clever people not realize they are wasting their time at your company and move somewhere where their contributions really matter. but no dice!
- wccrawford 15y ago
  Actually, sheeple are sometimes led best by deception. If something bad is happening, sheeple would rather hear deception than the truth. It enables them to keep going, instead of despairing. "Clevers", on the other hand, will rebel when there's deception, but will dig into an honest challenge. His list is actually quite good, even if some of the parts seem obvious. He seems to have gone for a more complete list, rather than try to only list things that don't seem obvious. Also, "clevers" are more sensitive to the 'do not' list than sheeple are. They are much more likely to rebel. By rebel, I mean cause discord or quit.
- smoyer 15y ago
  Where can I get reimbursed for the 90 seconds it took to skim this article? If the book is at all worthwhile, this is horrible advertising.
angelbob 15y ago
From the article: "Don't: give frequent feedback." Really? Perhaps they mean, give frequent feedback on what but not on how? I'm not sure where they were going with this.
forkandwait 15y ago
"Clevers"? Plural, as a noun? Give me a break. Maybe I missed something in my 3 second skim, but this guy sounds like he just wants to ride some asinine gimmick like "Seven Habits.." or "The Southbeach Diet". Here is my take on managing people, "clevers" and "non-clevers" (stupids? muggles? non-college?...) Remember that the people you hire are, in fact, people, rather than cranky forklifts. People need challenge, creativity, and growth to thrive, though they are often willing trade some time doing monotonous bullshit if there is a decent tradeoff; if you do have do monotonous bullshit, make sure they get to some cool stuff that follows from that. Figure out their "will-to-power" and how they view themselves, and align your goals with their own. Remember that even though you went to an Ivy League school and they graduated from the local junior college, they need the same stuff as you. "Clevers"?? really? he should be embarassed.
- deepGem 15y ago
  Echo that. It's not just clevers (as the author has coined the word), but everyone wants to be with smarter people. Have u heard anyone say - I'll hang out with this good for nothing dude. This article is a joke.
  - true_religion 15y ago
    I disagree. Some people just want to be with attractive people. Or rich people. Or funny people. Or people of high social standing. It's whatever their definition of "good for something" is... and that definition isn't always "smart".
    - forkandwait 15y ago
      It is whatever gives us a challenge to be more than we are -- richer, smarter, funnier, cuter, etc. Nietszche would call the drive to "overcome ourselves" just as instinctual (and fun) as the desire for soft, warm pleasure.
    - deepGem 15y ago
      Yep, that's what exactly I meant by smarter. Perhaps I should have been rather explicit. Smart doesn't necessarily mean intellectual. For a rich guy, it might mean someone who's richer (here the fact that the other person is richer implies he is smarter). Hope you get the drift.
natasham25 15y ago
A managers job is to bring the "clever" out of all the people he or she manages.
porlw 15y ago
The best way to lead clever people is to clear the way in front of them and let them follow the path of least resistance. If a "clever" encounters an obstacle they will devote their energy to working a way around it, so you need to make sure that the only challenges they encounter are ones you WANT them to solve.
vl 15y ago
There is a book for that: Peopleware.
- iqster 15y ago
  Second that. Peopleware should be required reading for anyone in software. I read it a decade ago and think it is still relevant.
hboon 15y ago
My version of How to lead clever people: 1. They are clever, remember that. 2. Remember 1. Stay out of their way, let them do what they are so good at doing. 3. Remember 1. Don't try to outsmart them at work. Unless it's not work related. Have fun there. 4. Remember 1. Do or help them do what they are not willing to do. Clear the trash, or hire someone to do it. 5. Remember 1. Help them do what they are good at. Give them resources. Remove blockers. 6. Remember 1. Give them challenges. Nothing bores clever people more than not feeling challenged by their work (read: their work do not include politics) 7. Protect them from politics. They might be good at shielding themselves, but that's not an effective use of their time. This includes you helping other teams that don't work with you. If every other team hates yours for performing and getting all the rewards, this might not make life good for you or your clever people. 8. Let them know what you have done for them. Don't brag, but this is a necessity for human relationships to work out, especially at work. Edit: typo
- wccrawford 15y ago
  I worked at a company that needed help at a few of these. 4) To save a few $, they made EVERY employee do cleaning duties. Take out the trash, clean the fridge and microwave, etc. This caused no end of strife, and couldn't possibly have been worth the little money they saved. 7) Politics were awesome initially, but then the CEO's friend was promoted to being a manager. After a major screwup, the CEO moved the guilt from the manager to EVERYONE under him. For not going over his head when he was making a mistake. The politics were made obvious at that point. 8) I often did NOT know what the company was doing for me behind the scenes. I only saw the things they failed to do, and had little appreciation for the things they did. I'm sure they thought they were just keeping me from being bothered, but they really should have tooted their own horn a bit here. In the end, these were factors in my leaving, but not the biggest one. Pay was the biggest. So I'll add to your list: 9. Pay them appropriately. If you don't, they're clever enough to find someone who will.
known 15y ago
Don't lead them. Administer them.

76 points by andrewl 15y ago

Managing the smartest people isn't impossible "cat herding" and it's not some obscure science. The trick is to realize how they got smart: by fighting the system to learn more than they should. They're rule-breakers but they also have a deep respect for learning, courage, and effort. Such people need to be mentored, and they need to feel favored (which is politically messy). If they feel like the people "in charge" are looking out for them and moving political obstacles out of their way, they'll be loyal. If they don't feel that way, they'll do what they think will teach them. Remember how they got smart: fighting the system, breaking rules. Getting an education by "stealing" it from a boss is natural to them.

DevX101 15y ago

The article is based on a compelling premise, but the analysis is often generic enough to be meaningless and leaves much to be desired. Most of the do's and don't infographic were either false or obvious. Example, Do: 'Talk Straight'. Don't: 'Use bull or deceive'. Really? I'm pretty sure this advice applies to every management position in existence outside of politics. I'd like to see an in-depth analysis of why the best engineers go to Google, but not AOL. I'd like to see more empirical based analysis on how to keep incredibly smart people to stay at your organization even though they're sharp enough and confident enough to go out on their own. It seems he's pushing a book about 'Clever Management'. I haven't read the book but if this article is any indication it will be one of those 80% filler business books that you read and walk away feeling like you didn't really learn anything new or non-obvious.

medinism 15y ago
Agreed. The article was shallow and unimaginative. I was hoping for some nugget around what makes clever people not realize they are wasting their time at your company and move somewhere where their contributions really matter. but no dice!
wccrawford 15y ago
Actually, sheeple are sometimes led best by deception. If something bad is happening, sheeple would rather hear deception than the truth. It enables them to keep going, instead of despairing. "Clevers", on the other hand, will rebel when there's deception, but will dig into an honest challenge. His list is actually quite good, even if some of the parts seem obvious. He seems to have gone for a more complete list, rather than try to only list things that don't seem obvious. Also, "clevers" are more sensitive to the 'do not' list than sheeple are. They are much more likely to rebel. By rebel, I mean cause discord or quit.
smoyer 15y ago
Where can I get reimbursed for the 90 seconds it took to skim this article? If the book is at all worthwhile, this is horrible advertising.

angelbob 15y ago

From the article: "Don't: give frequent feedback." Really? Perhaps they mean, give frequent feedback on what but not on how? I'm not sure where they were going with this.

forkandwait 15y ago

"Clevers"? Plural, as a noun? Give me a break. Maybe I missed something in my 3 second skim, but this guy sounds like he just wants to ride some asinine gimmick like "Seven Habits.." or "The Southbeach Diet". Here is my take on managing people, "clevers" and "non-clevers" (stupids? muggles? non-college?...) Remember that the people you hire are, in fact, people, rather than cranky forklifts. People need challenge, creativity, and growth to thrive, though they are often willing trade some time doing monotonous bullshit if there is a decent tradeoff; if you do have do monotonous bullshit, make sure they get to some cool stuff that follows from that. Figure out their "will-to-power" and how they view themselves, and align your goals with their own. Remember that even though you went to an Ivy League school and they graduated from the local junior college, they need the same stuff as you. "Clevers"?? really? he should be embarassed.

deepGem 15y ago
Echo that. It's not just clevers (as the author has coined the word), but everyone wants to be with smarter people. Have u heard anyone say - I'll hang out with this good for nothing dude. This article is a joke.
- true_religion 15y ago
  I disagree. Some people just want to be with attractive people. Or rich people. Or funny people. Or people of high social standing. It's whatever their definition of "good for something" is... and that definition isn't always "smart".
  - forkandwait 15y ago
    It is whatever gives us a challenge to be more than we are -- richer, smarter, funnier, cuter, etc. Nietszche would call the drive to "overcome ourselves" just as instinctual (and fun) as the desire for soft, warm pleasure.
  - deepGem 15y ago
    Yep, that's what exactly I meant by smarter. Perhaps I should have been rather explicit. Smart doesn't necessarily mean intellectual. For a rich guy, it might mean someone who's richer (here the fact that the other person is richer implies he is smarter). Hope you get the drift.

natasham25 15y ago

A managers job is to bring the "clever" out of all the people he or she manages.

porlw 15y ago

The best way to lead clever people is to clear the way in front of them and let them follow the path of least resistance. If a "clever" encounters an obstacle they will devote their energy to working a way around it, so you need to make sure that the only challenges they encounter are ones you WANT them to solve.

vl 15y ago

There is a book for that: Peopleware.

iqster 15y ago
Second that. Peopleware should be required reading for anyone in software. I read it a decade ago and think it is still relevant.

hboon 15y ago

My version of How to lead clever people: 1. They are clever, remember that. 2. Remember 1. Stay out of their way, let them do what they are so good at doing. 3. Remember 1. Don't try to outsmart them at work. Unless it's not work related. Have fun there. 4. Remember 1. Do or help them do what they are not willing to do. Clear the trash, or hire someone to do it. 5. Remember 1. Help them do what they are good at. Give them resources. Remove blockers. 6. Remember 1. Give them challenges. Nothing bores clever people more than not feeling challenged by their work (read: their work do not include politics) 7. Protect them from politics. They might be good at shielding themselves, but that's not an effective use of their time. This includes you helping other teams that don't work with you. If every other team hates yours for performing and getting all the rewards, this might not make life good for you or your clever people. 8. Let them know what you have done for them. Don't brag, but this is a necessity for human relationships to work out, especially at work. Edit: typo

wccrawford 15y ago
I worked at a company that needed help at a few of these. 4) To save a few $, they made EVERY employee do cleaning duties. Take out the trash, clean the fridge and microwave, etc. This caused no end of strife, and couldn't possibly have been worth the little money they saved. 7) Politics were awesome initially, but then the CEO's friend was promoted to being a manager. After a major screwup, the CEO moved the guilt from the manager to EVERYONE under him. For not going over his head when he was making a mistake. The politics were made obvious at that point. 8) I often did NOT know what the company was doing for me behind the scenes. I only saw the things they failed to do, and had little appreciation for the things they did. I'm sure they thought they were just keeping me from being bothered, but they really should have tooted their own horn a bit here. In the end, these were factors in my leaving, but not the biggest one. Pay was the biggest. So I'll add to your list: 9. Pay them appropriately. If you don't, they're clever enough to find someone who will.

known 15y ago

Don't lead them. Administer them.