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> Doesn't matter. The arguing would happen (or not happen) anyway, because it, too, would be absolute and predetermined. Of course! And this would make it a po
by fargle 5y ago
> Doesn't matter. The arguing would happen (or not happen) anyway, because it, too, would be absolute and predetermined.
Of course! And this would make it a pointless and futile debate then. You might even be right, but you should not win a debate with "it's inevitable and predetermined".
- coldtea 5y ago>Of course! And this would make it a pointless and futile debate then. I'm not so sure about that (but then, I would say so, no matter what). For it to be pointless, something like a "thing having a point" / deeper meaning would have to exist, but none does in a predetermined universe. So, it's not pointless as opposed to pointful, it's in a universe devoid of point-ness altogether. And in a sense it's not futile: in a deterministic cause/effect universe, having that argument is going to affect all future futures. If that argument didn't happen, the universe would still be deterministic (assuming it is to begin with), but the flow of events concerning the people having the argument and anything they affected would have changed.