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I find this stuff so disheartening. It's like, "how early can we indoctrinate kids into being comfortable being watched and having their every move tracked?"

I find this stuff so disheartening. It's like, "how early can we indoctrinate kids into being comfortable being watched and having their every move tracked?" I don't even care what the justifications are. Preventing cheating? Before everyone had personal computers and the internet, people could just copy each others' work. This kind of crap is fundamentally a violation of students' right to privacy. They deserve to grow up in a safe environment away from the prying eyes of crappy adults. I mean, to that point, how secure is GoGuardian? Who has access to the administrative tools/etc.? What APTs have gained access to its systems? A system breach of any online system is effectively inevitable, or at least impossible to rule out. Do you think everyone with a Verkada camera thought hackers around the world are going to be tuning into their video feed?[0] Anyway, stop buying tech that force you to give up your right to privacy to use it. You don't have to go 100%, but at least start looking at these kind of things before you shell out your hard-earned dollars. [0] https://www.theverge.com/2021/3/9/22322122/verkada-hack-150000-security-cameras-tesla-factory-cloudflare-jails-hospitals https://www.theverge.com/2021/3/9/22322122/verkada-hack-1500...

rand49an 5y ago
Primarily these types of software's are used for safeguarding purposes. For alerting teaching staff about children who are being abused, bullied or at risk of self harm etc. I think a better lesson would be here that if you use an account that's not managed by you, it may be used to install software that you disagree with. This is a good lesson for using IT in the workplace. OP shouldn't expect his son's school provided account to maintain privacy when he's using it, because schools have statutory responsibilities to look after the safety of their students.
mjbeswick 5y ago
The problem is that schools and teachers are at risk from more liability than ever. If a student is groomed online whilst using a school device of login, who do you think is going to get blamed; not the parents but the school. If a child is bullied online or radicalised, then again is will fall back on the school. You can't have privacy and expect a school to be responsible for what a child does online. Privacy doesn't create a safe environment; and when it comes to crappy adults, out of any group of people parents are the by far the most likely to abuse or neglect children. This idea of "stranger danger" is a myth, as the real danger in most cases is closer to home.

rand49an 5y ago

Primarily these types of software's are used for safeguarding purposes. For alerting teaching staff about children who are being abused, bullied or at risk of self harm etc. I think a better lesson would be here that if you use an account that's not managed by you, it may be used to install software that you disagree with. This is a good lesson for using IT in the workplace. OP shouldn't expect his son's school provided account to maintain privacy when he's using it, because schools have statutory responsibilities to look after the safety of their students.

mjbeswick 5y ago

The problem is that schools and teachers are at risk from more liability than ever. If a student is groomed online whilst using a school device of login, who do you think is going to get blamed; not the parents but the school. If a child is bullied online or radicalised, then again is will fall back on the school. You can't have privacy and expect a school to be responsible for what a child does online. Privacy doesn't create a safe environment; and when it comes to crappy adults, out of any group of people parents are the by far the most likely to abuse or neglect children. This idea of "stranger danger" is a myth, as the real danger in most cases is closer to home.