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And ofcourse, most importantly, Netflix (or Disney or Prime or Max) with ads should be free (or really, really cheaper). With internet streaming, we consumers p

And ofcourse, most importantly, Netflix (or Disney or Prime or Max) with ads should be free (or really, really cheaper). With internet streaming, we consumers pay for the bandwidth to use any streaming service. And so if Netflix or Disney want to waste my bandwidth with ads, they better be willing to compensate me for it.

SOLAR_FIELDS 5y ago
I asked my wife to cancel Hulu live recently because it was $85 USD/month with ads. Insane. She has one or two shows she likes to watch live so I suggested Sling Blue instead. Sling is OK for live stuff but anything on-demand is completely obnoxious with ads. We tried to watch an episode of Atlanta the other day and Sling injected more ads than the length of the show, eg it was longer than 30 minutes of ads to get through the 30 minute show. The inevitable that everyone said was going to happen is finally a reality - streaming platforms are back to where cable was 20 years ago.
mdasen 5y ago
> With internet streaming, we consumers pay for the bandwidth to use any streaming service. And so if Netflix or Disney want to waste my bandwidth with ads, they better be willing to compensate me for it. You pay for electricity and TV companies have never compensated you for the electricity used during their commercials. There are lots of occasions that we don't get compensated for things that have costs. For example, let's say you're driving in traffic. There's a stop light. Two cars from the other direction turn onto your street after their light has turned red ("it's been yellow for 3 seconds, but I don't wanna wait"). Your light turns green and a couple cars get through, but you have to wait another light cycle because of those two cars that illegally ran the red light. That's another minute or two of idle fuel usage. You don't get compensated for that and what the other drivers did was illegal. At least with Netflix you'd be agreeing to the ads and a price with a very real option of just not subscribing. There are so many things that you pay for that you don't get compensated for in that micro-accounting way. Heavier vehicles destroy roads requiring them to be repaved a lot more, but the drivers of those heavier vehicles don't pay for that. We all do. It costs way more to deliver things to people in rural areas, but the USPS and many online stores will charge the same shipping for someone in Alaska or rural Montana as someone in NYC despite the fact that the person in Alaska might be only accessible by air and the person in rural Montana might be the only person receiving a package for 5 miles. They might be using $1 worth of fuel just on the end delivery for one person in an area like that, never mind the amount of time that it takes to deliver the packages in such a rural area. ($4/gallon of gas, 20 MPG fuel economy, and a 5 mile distance would be $1) I'm not sure what your situation is (maybe you're on a really bandwidth restricted connection like HugesNet), but "we consumers pay for the bandwidth" is probably one of the smallest pieces of this world to worry about getting compensated for.
- webmobdev 5y ago
  You cleverly avoid the fact that many of us also don't pay cable tv providers the equivalent of what we pay our electric providers. Internet streaming providers on the other hand already charge us as much, or even more than what we pay for our internet service.

SOLAR_FIELDS 5y ago

I asked my wife to cancel Hulu live recently because it was $85 USD/month with ads. Insane. She has one or two shows she likes to watch live so I suggested Sling Blue instead. Sling is OK for live stuff but anything on-demand is completely obnoxious with ads. We tried to watch an episode of Atlanta the other day and Sling injected more ads than the length of the show, eg it was longer than 30 minutes of ads to get through the 30 minute show. The inevitable that everyone said was going to happen is finally a reality - streaming platforms are back to where cable was 20 years ago.

mdasen 5y ago

> With internet streaming, we consumers pay for the bandwidth to use any streaming service. And so if Netflix or Disney want to waste my bandwidth with ads, they better be willing to compensate me for it. You pay for electricity and TV companies have never compensated you for the electricity used during their commercials. There are lots of occasions that we don't get compensated for things that have costs. For example, let's say you're driving in traffic. There's a stop light. Two cars from the other direction turn onto your street after their light has turned red ("it's been yellow for 3 seconds, but I don't wanna wait"). Your light turns green and a couple cars get through, but you have to wait another light cycle because of those two cars that illegally ran the red light. That's another minute or two of idle fuel usage. You don't get compensated for that and what the other drivers did was illegal. At least with Netflix you'd be agreeing to the ads and a price with a very real option of just not subscribing. There are so many things that you pay for that you don't get compensated for in that micro-accounting way. Heavier vehicles destroy roads requiring them to be repaved a lot more, but the drivers of those heavier vehicles don't pay for that. We all do. It costs way more to deliver things to people in rural areas, but the USPS and many online stores will charge the same shipping for someone in Alaska or rural Montana as someone in NYC despite the fact that the person in Alaska might be only accessible by air and the person in rural Montana might be the only person receiving a package for 5 miles. They might be using $1 worth of fuel just on the end delivery for one person in an area like that, never mind the amount of time that it takes to deliver the packages in such a rural area. ($4/gallon of gas, 20 MPG fuel economy, and a 5 mile distance would be $1) I'm not sure what your situation is (maybe you're on a really bandwidth restricted connection like HugesNet), but "we consumers pay for the bandwidth" is probably one of the smallest pieces of this world to worry about getting compensated for.

webmobdev 5y ago
You cleverly avoid the fact that many of us also don't pay cable tv providers the equivalent of what we pay our electric providers. Internet streaming providers on the other hand already charge us as much, or even more than what we pay for our internet service.