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They could also say they are not even close to being competitive and that would be accurate as well. The auto industry is a failure as a whole. I wish we had a

They could also say they are not even close to being competitive and that would be accurate as well. The auto industry is a failure as a whole. I wish we had a Linux Foundation for automakers to have them collaborate and make exchangeable parts and open source computer systems. Their greed prevents any serious progress and regulations also make this difficult, but I don't see why there isn't some collective. Each automaker wants everything they do to be proprietary. They want mechanics and dealers exclusive to them. The whole auto industry is very wasteful and corrupt. I don't think full EVs make a lot of sense yet. They are just not that practical and most people I know that have full EVs also have another gas powered or hybrid vehicle for longer trips where they won't have to stop and recharge.

insaneirish 5y ago
> I wish we had a Linux Foundation for automakers to have them collaborate and make exchangeable parts and open source computer systems. Their greed prevents any serious progress and regulations also make this difficult, but I don't see why there isn't some collective. Oh boy is this an odd basis to an analogy.
- smaudet 5y ago
  Except it isn't. I guess it's not fashionable to talk about old cars anymore, back in the day cars were "simpler" i.e. fewer specialized components, less computer more mechanical component. Whether the cars were better or worse, it meant a lot of independent and home grown car mechanics. We still have autoshops, but fewer, and its also much more difficult to source parts, except by relying on cheap knockoff parts from China. We barely have a manufacturing base at all anymore. Right now, IBM computers are pretty much king. It wasn't always that way and if Apple took over you'd have much the same issue. It's the same set of market forces, I'd argue this isn't an analogy at all.
- encryptluks2 5y ago
  How so? The Linux Foundation took competing vendor solutions and somehow found a way to get them to work together. Now the CNCF solutions are considered pretty standard across the board and interoperability is almost crucial for survival.
rascul 5y ago
> The auto industry is a failure as a whole. I wish we had a Linux Foundation for automakers to have them collaborate and make exchangeable parts and open source computer systems. Their greed prevents any serious progress and regulations also make this difficult, but I don't see why there isn't some collective. https://www.automotivelinux.org/ https://www.automotivelinux.org/

insaneirish 5y ago

> I wish we had a Linux Foundation for automakers to have them collaborate and make exchangeable parts and open source computer systems. Their greed prevents any serious progress and regulations also make this difficult, but I don't see why there isn't some collective. Oh boy is this an odd basis to an analogy.

smaudet 5y ago
Except it isn't. I guess it's not fashionable to talk about old cars anymore, back in the day cars were "simpler" i.e. fewer specialized components, less computer more mechanical component. Whether the cars were better or worse, it meant a lot of independent and home grown car mechanics. We still have autoshops, but fewer, and its also much more difficult to source parts, except by relying on cheap knockoff parts from China. We barely have a manufacturing base at all anymore. Right now, IBM computers are pretty much king. It wasn't always that way and if Apple took over you'd have much the same issue. It's the same set of market forces, I'd argue this isn't an analogy at all.
encryptluks2 5y ago
How so? The Linux Foundation took competing vendor solutions and somehow found a way to get them to work together. Now the CNCF solutions are considered pretty standard across the board and interoperability is almost crucial for survival.

rascul 5y ago

> The auto industry is a failure as a whole. I wish we had a Linux Foundation for automakers to have them collaborate and make exchangeable parts and open source computer systems. Their greed prevents any serious progress and regulations also make this difficult, but I don't see why there isn't some collective. https://www.automotivelinux.org/ https://www.automotivelinux.org/