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Does mystical language honestly require a trigger warning? https://psychlopaedia.org/society/republished/whats-the-difference-between-traumatic-fear-and-moral-

Does mystical language honestly require a trigger warning? https://psychlopaedia.org/society/republished/whats-the-difference-between-traumatic-fear-and-moral-anger-trigger-warnings-wont-tell-you/ https://psychlopaedia.org/society/republished/whats-the-diff... """ The idea of trigger warnings originates in the psychiatric literature on post-traumatic reactions, where triggering had the same connotations. The primary features of post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD) include so-called “re-experiencing symptoms”, like intrusive thoughts and flashbacks. These thoughts and images bring traumatic events vividly back to life, accompanied by the intense fear that the events originally evoked. Experiences that recall those early events trigger re-experiencing symptoms through a process that is rapid, unconscious, involuntary and automatic. That process is often understood in terms of fear conditioning. """ The only person who I know of who has a form of PTSD that could be triggered by reading a mystical take would be Dawn Lawton, writer of "When Buddhism goes bad", or someone who went through a similarly distressing situation. https://danlawton.substack.com/p/when-buddhism-goes-bad/comments?s=r https://danlawton.substack.com/p/when-buddhism-goes-bad/comm... Is a situation like this common enough to warrant it? While there are some posters on HN who are into buddhism/meditation or have tried it, I think this sort of experience is still not so common in this space and the TW threatens to cheapen the meaning of a trigger, normalizes pathological sensitivity and adds artificial social barriers to interesting discussions. Well, that's just what I think. But if what you say is true, it would also be what you think, as me.

nobody9999 5y ago
>Does mystical language honestly require a trigger warning? I think GP was being a little flip with that, especially since many on HN are likely (as I am) empricists who don't really go in for "mystical language" or what is generally known as "woo."[0] Hence the facetious reference to a "trigger warning." Perhaps GP could confirm or reject my hypothesis? [0] http://skepdic.com/woowoo.html http://skepdic.com/woowoo.html Edit: Found the missing link.
- monktastic1 4y ago
  Sorry, didn't see this until just now. I wasn't intending to be flippant, but I also wasn't aware of the concern people have over broadening the usage of "trigger warning." I'll take that into account next time.
- JetAlone 5y ago
  If its use was facetious, Poe's Law definitely applies here. Since you don't find mysticism helpful, that's one thing. If you found it triggering, that's another.
  - nobody9999 5y ago
    >If its use was facetious, Poe's Law definitely applies here. Since you don't find mysticism helpful, that's one thing. If you found it triggering, that's another. Absolutely. Although Poe's Law seems to apply to pretty much anything that's not tide charts or ASCII tables. I was going to say sunrise/sunset times, but I was afraid of annoying the flat-earthers.[0] [0] For those of you without a sense of humor, cf. Poe's Law[1]. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe%27s_law https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe%27s_law
    - JetAlone 5y ago
      I could make a Bill O'Reilly tide chart that marks its columns with "Tide goes in" and "tide goes out"* I'd brand it with pictures of Bill O' Reilly, his show's colour scheme, and inspirational quotes. This tide chart could seem to be a legitimate homage to him, or an elaborate humorous poke. *You can't explain that!
      - nobody9999 5y ago
        >"Tide goes in" and "tide goes out"* Shouldn't that be "knife goes in, guts come out. That's what Osaka Seafood Concern is all about"?[0] Just sayin... [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thirty_Minutes_over_Tokyo#Themes_and_cultural_references https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thirty_Minutes_over_Tokyo#Them...
        JetAlone 5y ago
        I was referring to this meme. EDIT: I meant to post this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzkRHFl2ppw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzkRHFl2ppw I love Osaka and I love seafood. Nothing to be concerned about.

nobody9999 5y ago

>Does mystical language honestly require a trigger warning? I think GP was being a little flip with that, especially since many on HN are likely (as I am) empricists who don't really go in for "mystical language" or what is generally known as "woo."[0] Hence the facetious reference to a "trigger warning." Perhaps GP could confirm or reject my hypothesis? [0] http://skepdic.com/woowoo.html http://skepdic.com/woowoo.html Edit: Found the missing link.

monktastic1 4y ago
Sorry, didn't see this until just now. I wasn't intending to be flippant, but I also wasn't aware of the concern people have over broadening the usage of "trigger warning." I'll take that into account next time.
JetAlone 5y ago
If its use was facetious, Poe's Law definitely applies here. Since you don't find mysticism helpful, that's one thing. If you found it triggering, that's another.
- nobody9999 5y ago
  >If its use was facetious, Poe's Law definitely applies here. Since you don't find mysticism helpful, that's one thing. If you found it triggering, that's another. Absolutely. Although Poe's Law seems to apply to pretty much anything that's not tide charts or ASCII tables. I was going to say sunrise/sunset times, but I was afraid of annoying the flat-earthers.[0] [0] For those of you without a sense of humor, cf. Poe's Law[1]. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe%27s_law https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe%27s_law
  - JetAlone 5y ago
    I could make a Bill O'Reilly tide chart that marks its columns with "Tide goes in" and "tide goes out"* I'd brand it with pictures of Bill O' Reilly, his show's colour scheme, and inspirational quotes. This tide chart could seem to be a legitimate homage to him, or an elaborate humorous poke. *You can't explain that!
    - nobody9999 5y ago
      >"Tide goes in" and "tide goes out"* Shouldn't that be "knife goes in, guts come out. That's what Osaka Seafood Concern is all about"?[0] Just sayin... [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thirty_Minutes_over_Tokyo#Themes_and_cultural_references https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thirty_Minutes_over_Tokyo#Them...
      - JetAlone 5y ago
        I was referring to this meme. EDIT: I meant to post this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzkRHFl2ppw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzkRHFl2ppw I love Osaka and I love seafood. Nothing to be concerned about.