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Why is it, without fail, there's always someone in an HN thread making complaints about the name of something they have absolutely no involvement in? I come he

by riffic 5y ago

Why is it, without fail, there's always someone in an HN thread making complaints about the name of something they have absolutely no involvement in? I come here just for the bikeshedding to be honest.

Nextgrid 5y ago
Maybe consider this as constructive criticism? I'm sure a lot of people here are fed up with the existing social media platforms and would want something like Mastodon to succeed, but there's no way it will succeed if it shoots itself in the foot from the beginning with terrible branding. Until Mastodon (or others) can seamlessly interoperate with existing social networks, they have to gain mass adoption to become useful, which means catering to what the masses think is appealing even if you don't particularly agree with that determination.
- IYasha 5y ago
  FOSS projects never fail to surprise me in their creativity of making weird, unintuitive, terrible names. Just install the damn Linux, list all packages and try guessing what's for what. Even worse than forced codenames in place of distribution versions in digits.
- riffic 5y ago
  I don't have any personal involvement with Mastodon either, I just think it's a cool piece of software and I'm cranky enough to point out a tired trope I see day-in-day-out on this site (name complaints).
  - Nextgrid 5y ago
    Oh absolutely, I agree that it's very cool at a technical level. But I don't believe it's going to succeed at its mission with the current branding. It is of course open-source software and they don't have to do anything if they're happy with the status-quo, but imagine how better if would be if you had something with the branding & adoption of Twitter and the features & benefits of Mastodon?
    - riffic 5y ago
      Mastodon is pushing releases out the door at a pace I'm happy with - they're at version 3.5 so far since its initial launch of 2016 or so. I'd consider that (and the sustainability of the project) a success. A lot of project maintainers burn out after an amount of time or stall out completely so this is an indicator there's something more here and it's healthy. I'm not quite sure I agree with the point you're getting at concerning branding and mass adoption.
- com 5y ago
  That’s a good point, about seamless interop with existing social networks. The EU Digital Markets Act looks like it’s designed to force some messaging interop, and it’s regulation-driven, so it can be refreshed a little more dynamically than most legislation. Crossing fingers for some movement on the interop front!
orblivion 5y ago
If you ran a company, wouldn't you find it valuable what people reacted to your branding? If you want your FOSS project to succeed you probably similarly would or at least should be interested.

by riffic 5y ago

Nextgrid 5y ago

Maybe consider this as constructive criticism? I'm sure a lot of people here are fed up with the existing social media platforms and would want something like Mastodon to succeed, but there's no way it will succeed if it shoots itself in the foot from the beginning with terrible branding. Until Mastodon (or others) can seamlessly interoperate with existing social networks, they have to gain mass adoption to become useful, which means catering to what the masses think is appealing even if you don't particularly agree with that determination.

IYasha 5y ago
FOSS projects never fail to surprise me in their creativity of making weird, unintuitive, terrible names. Just install the damn Linux, list all packages and try guessing what's for what. Even worse than forced codenames in place of distribution versions in digits.
riffic 5y ago
I don't have any personal involvement with Mastodon either, I just think it's a cool piece of software and I'm cranky enough to point out a tired trope I see day-in-day-out on this site (name complaints).
- Nextgrid 5y ago
  Oh absolutely, I agree that it's very cool at a technical level. But I don't believe it's going to succeed at its mission with the current branding. It is of course open-source software and they don't have to do anything if they're happy with the status-quo, but imagine how better if would be if you had something with the branding & adoption of Twitter and the features & benefits of Mastodon?
  - riffic 5y ago
    Mastodon is pushing releases out the door at a pace I'm happy with - they're at version 3.5 so far since its initial launch of 2016 or so. I'd consider that (and the sustainability of the project) a success. A lot of project maintainers burn out after an amount of time or stall out completely so this is an indicator there's something more here and it's healthy. I'm not quite sure I agree with the point you're getting at concerning branding and mass adoption.
com 5y ago
That’s a good point, about seamless interop with existing social networks. The EU Digital Markets Act looks like it’s designed to force some messaging interop, and it’s regulation-driven, so it can be refreshed a little more dynamically than most legislation. Crossing fingers for some movement on the interop front!

orblivion 5y ago

If you ran a company, wouldn't you find it valuable what people reacted to your branding? If you want your FOSS project to succeed you probably similarly would or at least should be interested.