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You are being sarcastic? France, Ireland, the Netherlands voted against ratifying the treaty of Lisbon, which gave considerable sovereign to the EU. Sarkozy ad
by jollybean 5y ago
You are being sarcastic?
France, Ireland, the Netherlands voted against ratifying the treaty of Lisbon, which gave considerable sovereign to the EU. Sarkozy adopted it anyhow. EU leaders decided to forgo any form of referendum in the rest of Europe, because they knew they would lose.
It was one of the most blatant anti-democratic acts in all of history.
That's just the tip of the iceberg.
Paradoxically, the amount of Pro-EU propaganda and complete lack of both understanding and questioning of the institution is staggering.
It should be noted that at this very moment of crisis, the EU actually isn't providing leadership, rather individual EU nations are forging their own momentum: Baltic states + Poland are closing their borders, dumping Russian Oil, Macron is 'talking' to Putin (not Von Der Leyen), and from a military perspective the EU has no relevance it seems.
So no - that's the opposite of a good example and why we'd have to be careful about legislation.
CNN, Fox, MSNBC, are all full of propaganda and misrepresentation - the issue has fundamentally to do with material reality.
We can actually probably legislate against misinformation, that might be possible but probably not 'propaganda'.
For example: making unproven claims about medical technology - already there's health reasons for that, imagine how that would apply to vaccine misinformation? It might require skeptics to be very deliberate about their skepticism, which for example is fine, it's what we want. But they can't run around arbitrarily saying 'it causes cancer' etc..
For elections, if you want to make claims of 'stolen' you might have to provide evidence.
Perhaps if we treated drugs and election standing like individuals, who can be subject to slander and 'sue' their antagonists, there might be something there.