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I mean, he's obviously not a normal guy. I don't know what you expect. From a recent profile: > Apart from a criminal streak, Hotz shares with Raskolnikov, Dos
by bko 5y ago
I mean, he's obviously not a normal guy. I don't know what you expect. From a recent profile:
> Apart from a criminal streak, Hotz shares with Raskolnikov, Dostoyevsky’s antihero, a predilection for instrumental reason and an urge to test his own mettle, to know himself by knowing his limits. As a young adult Hotz allowed himself to become addicted to prescription opiates almost as an experience in self-mastery. “I did it, I was addicted, and I quit,” he told me. “I think I had to have that experience. I don’t think I ever could have been the type who never tried it. Because in some ways I feel that if I’m not strong enough to defeat that and overcome it…” He paused for several beats before assuring me he’d never want anyone to follow his example. “In order to quit,” he continued, “it required me to rethink what I wanted out of life. After that, one of the biggest things that changed is I stopped caring about money.”
https://return.life/2022/03/07/george-hotz-comma-ride-or-die/ https://return.life/2022/03/07/george-hotz-comma-ride-or-die...
- mdp2021 5y ago> not a normal guy I assure you some people try themselves - and I do not see what is not "normal" about it. To experience, voluntary, then grow, is the norm.
- bko 5y agoI don't know. I ran the idea of purposely getting addicted to opioids to see if i can quit by my wife and she assured me i was crazy.
- mdp2021 5y agoThis direction goes off-topic, but: look, if you married her, -- either you go along well, hence that she agrees with your opinion is a weak test; -- or you married her to test yourself, which would prove my point. TND; QED. /J
- Zacharias030 5y agoWhat does TND mean?
- mdp2021 5y ago("Tertium Non Datur" - that analyzed options are exhaustive)
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- paisawalla 5y agoMeaning this only neutrally, and completely respectfully: have you considered that you're a bit abnormal as well?
- shawn-butler 5y agoThe only normal people are the ones faking it
- mdp2021 5y agoYes, reflection is still part of the norm. Luckily... :) Normal is what reflects the norm. That natural, observational norm (type, mode) and deontic, optimal norm ("as it should be") so typically ("normally") diverge, so the latter is found in the standard deviation, comes from the very point that was raised initially: growth («To experience, voluntarily, then grow, is the norm»), or the point where you are in it, proceeding towards the right extreme. There is no escape from the norm (and its negative), you see: if good, then optimal norm, peripheral in the curve; if lacky, then observational norm in the centre. And between the two there is a sort of a continuity, thresholds aside... That the "world" looks so abnormal, the bad way (hence you can call 'abnormal' the normal), is justified in such framework - especially when you look at it as a playground. And we just say, ok, if it were possible just to reduce the collateral damage...
- webnrrd2k 5y ago
- biscoitinho 5y agoI'm in a similar situation, but not with opioids. I don't think that this is a crazy idea at all. We're just testing our limits and seeing if we as smart as we say.
- paisawalla 5y agoAgreed. To test my belief in probabilities, I occasionally challenge myself to a few rounds of Russian Roulette.
- azinman2 5y agoAnd what if you aren’t?
- biscoitinho 5y ago
- azinman2 5y agoWell it seems to be for many, many people
- girvo 5y agoAs someone who somewhat went down that path, the answer for me was "no, I can't quit on my own and man this 'experiment' has done some serious damage to my life" I'm doing better now! The buprenorphine injection has made my life so much better. Of course my trauma was one of the real driving forces behind that "experiment" and thought process. Really, my "lets find out what its like" was a rationalisation it seems.
- mcv 5y agoI've heard that real serious addictions are never just about the drugs, but also about underlying issues. It makes sense that someone without those issues would have an easier time quitting.
- germinalphrase 5y agoThe hubris of framing it that way is kind of wild.