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There's no meaningful benefit to dedicating any amount of DC equipment just to stale content. Those are spindles (and networks) that could be taking meaningful

by jreese 5y ago

There's no meaningful benefit to dedicating any amount of DC equipment just to stale content. Those are spindles (and networks) that could be taking meaningful hot reads and writes, and colocating stale and hot data is generally a better use of capacity than concentrating hot data in fewer locations.

darkwater 5y ago
What you say totally makes sense but still, even if new media takes more storage space, the accumulated stale date in the long run will win. Or maybe I'm underestimating how much space newer material needs?
- fleddr 5y ago
  Exactly. And that doesn't even take into account higher res photos and 4K video. I remember the staggering statistic where just Instagram sees 100 million photos added per day, every day. And that was years ago.
  - gitfan86 5y ago
    Instagram does not guarantee photo quality. They can resize photos anytime they want. Eventually they turn 10 year old photos that have not been viewed in 9 years into thumbnails or just delete them.
    - jamesfinlayson 5y ago
      I looked back at some photos from Christmas in Facebook Messenger and they looked noticeably degraded in quality.
  - ksec 5y ago
    That is just Instagram, with photos. Imagine Youtube. And again I have been saying this since ~2015/16, we dont have any meaningful roadmap for cost reduction on storage, whether that is Hot as in NAND, Bulk as in HDD, or Cold as in Optical Disc. I dont see 2TB SSD dropping below $100 in next 5 years, or 10TB HDD below $120. Remember when Google promise infinite Gmail storage?
    - southerntofu 5y ago
      > we dont have any meaningful roadmap for cost reduction on storage Then maybe we could: - stop encouraging users to post shit just so we can track them - stop tracking them which requires many data points and a lot of processing power (for 0 benefit for the user or society at large) - stop the copyright non-sense and actually use hyperlinks instead of reuploading the same content 500 times across platforms? maybe even do content-addressed storage (Bittorrent/IPFS) who knows?
- jreese 5y ago
  The amount of ephemeral content (stories, expiring content) being created/shared has a larger impact on capacity and provisioning than you might expect.
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by jreese 5y ago

darkwater 5y ago

What you say totally makes sense but still, even if new media takes more storage space, the accumulated stale date in the long run will win. Or maybe I'm underestimating how much space newer material needs?

fleddr 5y ago
Exactly. And that doesn't even take into account higher res photos and 4K video. I remember the staggering statistic where just Instagram sees 100 million photos added per day, every day. And that was years ago.
- gitfan86 5y ago
  Instagram does not guarantee photo quality. They can resize photos anytime they want. Eventually they turn 10 year old photos that have not been viewed in 9 years into thumbnails or just delete them.
  - jamesfinlayson 5y ago
    I looked back at some photos from Christmas in Facebook Messenger and they looked noticeably degraded in quality.
- ksec 5y ago
  That is just Instagram, with photos. Imagine Youtube. And again I have been saying this since ~2015/16, we dont have any meaningful roadmap for cost reduction on storage, whether that is Hot as in NAND, Bulk as in HDD, or Cold as in Optical Disc. I dont see 2TB SSD dropping below $100 in next 5 years, or 10TB HDD below $120. Remember when Google promise infinite Gmail storage?
  - southerntofu 5y ago
    > we dont have any meaningful roadmap for cost reduction on storage Then maybe we could: - stop encouraging users to post shit just so we can track them - stop tracking them which requires many data points and a lot of processing power (for 0 benefit for the user or society at large) - stop the copyright non-sense and actually use hyperlinks instead of reuploading the same content 500 times across platforms? maybe even do content-addressed storage (Bittorrent/IPFS) who knows?
jreese 5y ago
The amount of ephemeral content (stories, expiring content) being created/shared has a larger impact on capacity and provisioning than you might expect.

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