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I like this guy mostly for preserving a hacker-ish culture in the atmosphere and for just being a real human being in public. Too often do I feel like I'm just
by hwers 5y ago
I like this guy mostly for preserving a hacker-ish culture in the atmosphere and for just being a real human being in public. Too often do I feel like I'm just interacting with interfaces to corporations or people who self censor themselves so much they barely feel human. I'm not sure this library matters much to me but I maintain positive perspective on this guy for these reasons.
- ramblerman 5y agoI wish Dang would just kill this sub-thread. What a mess. A whole amateur dissection of this guy's personality. It's so bloody awkward, just comment on the work and move on. But it's great to know HN readers are all such paragons of virtue.
- hwers 5y agoWell you got your wish. Gonna be honest and say I’m not sure I’m enjoying HNs move to follow twitter and facebook to micromanage discussion to this degree. I really don’t think we were being uncivil in having a discussion about what we appreciate about this guy.
- travisporter 5y agoIts funny you say this because the repo mentions Andrej Karpathy's repo. I absolutely love his work especially his ML tutorials, but there was one tesla automation day where he shuts down this guy asking a question with robotic efficiency. I wish I could find it.
- thspimpolds 5y agoHaving gone to college and knowing this guy personally from then, you would have a much different opinion... Maybe he has grown up, but back then... yeeesh
- hwers 5y agoI have gone to college with similar overachievers/braggers, and now that you mention it if they were in the spotlight as much as him I'd roll my eyes pretty hard. Still though, having not gone to college with this particular one somehow I can stand it.
- sydthrowaway 5y agoI'm guessing only child syndrome + rich as hell parents.
- _dh54 5y agoI cannot take this criticism seriously unless you are more specific than “yeesh.” If you aren’t willing to be specific then better to not say anything at all.
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- bko 5y agoI mean, he's obviously not a normal guy. I don't know what you expect. From a recent profile: > Apart from a criminal streak, Hotz shares with Raskolnikov, Dostoyevsky’s antihero, a predilection for instrumental reason and an urge to test his own mettle, to know himself by knowing his limits. As a young adult Hotz allowed himself to become addicted to prescription opiates almost as an experience in self-mastery. “I did it, I was addicted, and I quit,” he told me. “I think I had to have that experience. I don’t think I ever could have been the type who never tried it. Because in some ways I feel that if I’m not strong enough to defeat that and overcome it…” He paused for several beats before assuring me he’d never want anyone to follow his example. “In order to quit,” he continued, “it required me to rethink what I wanted out of life. After that, one of the biggest things that changed is I stopped caring about money.” https://return.life/2022/03/07/george-hotz-comma-ride-or-die/ https://return.life/2022/03/07/george-hotz-comma-ride-or-die...
- mdp2021 5y ago> not a normal guy I assure you some people try themselves - and I do not see what is not "normal" about it. To experience, voluntary, then grow, is the norm.
- bko 5y agoI don't know. I ran the idea of purposely getting addicted to opioids to see if i can quit by my wife and she assured me i was crazy.
- mdp2021 5y agoThis direction goes off-topic, but: look, if you married her, -- either you go along well, hence that she agrees with your opinion is a weak test; -- or you married her to test yourself, which would prove my point. TND; QED. /J
- Zacharias030 5y agoWhat does TND mean?
- canjobear 5y agoWho cares if he’s a nice guy?
- bri3d 5y agoIf he's being held up as some shining beacon of the "hacker-ish culture" as the grandparent poster is doing, it would be nice if he weren't also a jerk.
- bitexploder 5y agoEveryone should kill their heroes. They almost never live up to the pedestals people place them on. They are all just people and have flaws. They don’t have to be some perfect person to do cool things we can respect.
- bri3d 5y agoI respect geohotz' achievements (generally). I would never hold him up as an example of hacker culture, or his persona as one to emulate. There is a difference between these things.
- recuter 5y agoIs hacker culture not filled with "weird jerks"? Linus doesn't qualify? Who does?
- mcv 5y agoLinus used to be a massive jerk until he fixed his attitude. Hackers can grow. I've got massive respect for everybody who addresses their own problems and fixes them. Way too many people only look for the problem in other people, but it's never that simple.
- nextlevelwizard 5y agoOut of curiosity who would you show as an example of hacker culture?
- throwawaylien 5y agoJealousy tends to make you react that way
- brimble 5y agoEnvy. Some changes in language are fine, but these are very different things and it's nice to have words for both of them.
- lyrareturns 5y agoMaybe you were the one who sucked.
- bko 5y agoIt's crazy that his company (comma ai) and actions stick out so much. They're in the auto-driving space and they have a real product that you can buy today and use it for a better lane-assist and hook it up to most newish cars. It's open source so you could run it on your own hardware for free. You have a complaint or question? Just check out their discord where you can talk to engineers working there instead of some outsourced chat bot. They just figured out the minimum you would have to do to control a car and are making incremental improvements with the insane business strategy of charging more than it takes for them to build it. Oh and if you're a business executive and want to partner, you can schedule a 30 minute phone call with comma's VP of Business Development for $1,000!
- alexnewman 5y agoThis library is so cool. It shows where the value is. Just like commaai . This is how we move forward. Cut to the core and share
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