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China has no well known flagship brand demonstrating that level of quality. Japan had Sony. South Korea has LG. What equivalent brand comes from China that U

China has no well known flagship brand demonstrating that level of quality. Japan had Sony. South Korea has LG. What equivalent brand comes from China that US consumers know?

pxx 5y ago
Aren't we literally in a thread that's discussing Anker and the quality of their products??
conorgdaly 5y ago
DJI. Head and shoulders above the competition. Although China also has most of the crappy knock-off drone brands that don't get the fundamentals right. As commenter further up said: " If they don't want that to be the case, someone would need to crack down on the lies and knockoffs." Even though China can and has done good manufacturing and engineering, I think of crappy knockoffs when I think of Chinese engineering. Not so much for the Germans or the Swiss. Given how much power the CCP has, they could rectify this in no time. Much like a corporation, they seem to be focused on short term gains (lots of tiny profits coming from knockoffs and frankly dangerous products which don't comply with laws of buyer's country) rather than medium/long term reputation. To add to that, the forced data sharing and backdoors CCP forces companies to install just means they're eroding international trust in Chinese companies at the expense of long term reputation. I feel bad for any actual Chinese engineering companies because they will have that reputation no matter what as long as they are China HQ'd.
- 2143 5y ago
  You're right. Chinese products do have questionable reputation. > Not so much for the Germans or the Swiss. Since the Germans are known for cars, let's talk cars. I drive a W212 Mercedes-Benz E250 CDI which I bought new a few years ago. My impression of German products is forever tainted. It's lovely to drive when everything works, but everything doesn't always work. It's designed in a complicated way that things are prone to failure, and when it does fail you'll have to take apart the whole car to fix it thereby increasing the labour cost to work on it. It's been a money pit. The ride and handling is pretty good though if ignore the weird suspension noises. ----------- Now, I don't own VWs myself, but you should look into transmission problems with their DSG dual-clutch transmission. Just Google "DSG mechatronic failure". It's a lovely gearbox, but it's guaranteed to fail at some point. And VW knows it. Yet they still continue to fit it in VW and Skoda cars (amongst others). The rest of the car is relatively fine though. Skoda especially makes superb products (pun intended) — too bad they don't sell in USA. ----------- I hope you still remember the whole dieselgate scam of European car manufacturers. ----------- You might want to rethink your perception of German engineering. (Note that this is not a reflection of German people or anything. The few Germans that I personally know, and the many more that I've interacted with indirectly are wonderful people.)
  - 411111111111111 5y ago
    All large corporations are corrupt and should be considered amoral at best. This applies to VW and any other multinational megacorporation. If they can milk you dry and get away with it, they will do so. I'm pretty sure that the good sentiment for German engineering is rooted in smaller and more specialized goods, i.e high quality gardening tools at this point. The time when carmakers considered anything but short term profits is long gone
  - jjeaff 5y ago
    All engineering has tradeoffs. There is still nothing I have driven that compares well to a high end German BMW in regards to how it feels on the road. Smooth, quiet, but powerful and stuck to the road. The 3 and 5 series are different cars. The 750+ series is where it's at. And like the Mercedes, things break often and are ridiculously expensive to fix. They have obviously prioritized other things. But if you want that premium, BMW feel that makes driving anything else feel and sound like a fun can on wheels, that high end German engineering with all it's flaws is about your only option.
    - 2143 5y ago
      BMWs tend to be more reliable than Mercedes, based on acquaintances who drive BMWs. > But if you want that premium, BMW feel that makes driving anything else feel and sound like a fun can on wheels You forget Porsche ;) Anyway, before the end of this century computers will probably be doing the driving, and high-end handling likely won't be a priority for anybody anymore. I digress.
redwall_hp 5y ago
DJI is pretty much the most respected brand for camera drones. Lenovo. Aside from Apple, they're one of the core "premium" computer brands and are also one of the big ones for business fleets. TCL seems to be the new Vizio in TVs. Anker is probably the most trusted company for third party chargers, cords and other phone accessories. Polestar is a growing name in luxury cars. I don't know what the sentiment about Haier appliances is (they also bought GE's appliance division), but they definitely have a presence in stores in the US.
- fomine3 5y ago
  Lenovo is a big one but they acquired IBM and Motorola so not looks like Chinese homegrown.
fomine3 5y ago
Huawei except in the US, but it's gone. Maybe Honor will be.
2143 5y ago
> China has no well known flagship brand demonstrating that level of quality. OnePlus.
- ziml77 5y ago
  Ha. OnePlus had a hit with the OnePlus One due to being high spec and low cost but they've slid since then. Costs are now up to the level of other flagships but they still operate like they're selling a cheap phone. My previous phone was a OnePlus and despite me running into a nasty issue, they didn't respond to my support requests.

China has no well known flagship brand demonstrating that level of quality. Japan had Sony. South Korea has LG. What equivalent brand comes from China that US consumers know?

pxx 5y ago

Aren't we literally in a thread that's discussing Anker and the quality of their products??

conorgdaly 5y ago

DJI. Head and shoulders above the competition. Although China also has most of the crappy knock-off drone brands that don't get the fundamentals right. As commenter further up said: " If they don't want that to be the case, someone would need to crack down on the lies and knockoffs." Even though China can and has done good manufacturing and engineering, I think of crappy knockoffs when I think of Chinese engineering. Not so much for the Germans or the Swiss. Given how much power the CCP has, they could rectify this in no time. Much like a corporation, they seem to be focused on short term gains (lots of tiny profits coming from knockoffs and frankly dangerous products which don't comply with laws of buyer's country) rather than medium/long term reputation. To add to that, the forced data sharing and backdoors CCP forces companies to install just means they're eroding international trust in Chinese companies at the expense of long term reputation. I feel bad for any actual Chinese engineering companies because they will have that reputation no matter what as long as they are China HQ'd.

2143 5y ago
You're right. Chinese products do have questionable reputation. > Not so much for the Germans or the Swiss. Since the Germans are known for cars, let's talk cars. I drive a W212 Mercedes-Benz E250 CDI which I bought new a few years ago. My impression of German products is forever tainted. It's lovely to drive when everything works, but everything doesn't always work. It's designed in a complicated way that things are prone to failure, and when it does fail you'll have to take apart the whole car to fix it thereby increasing the labour cost to work on it. It's been a money pit. The ride and handling is pretty good though if ignore the weird suspension noises. ----------- Now, I don't own VWs myself, but you should look into transmission problems with their DSG dual-clutch transmission. Just Google "DSG mechatronic failure". It's a lovely gearbox, but it's guaranteed to fail at some point. And VW knows it. Yet they still continue to fit it in VW and Skoda cars (amongst others). The rest of the car is relatively fine though. Skoda especially makes superb products (pun intended) — too bad they don't sell in USA. ----------- I hope you still remember the whole dieselgate scam of European car manufacturers. ----------- You might want to rethink your perception of German engineering. (Note that this is not a reflection of German people or anything. The few Germans that I personally know, and the many more that I've interacted with indirectly are wonderful people.)
- 411111111111111 5y ago
  All large corporations are corrupt and should be considered amoral at best. This applies to VW and any other multinational megacorporation. If they can milk you dry and get away with it, they will do so. I'm pretty sure that the good sentiment for German engineering is rooted in smaller and more specialized goods, i.e high quality gardening tools at this point. The time when carmakers considered anything but short term profits is long gone
- jjeaff 5y ago
  All engineering has tradeoffs. There is still nothing I have driven that compares well to a high end German BMW in regards to how it feels on the road. Smooth, quiet, but powerful and stuck to the road. The 3 and 5 series are different cars. The 750+ series is where it's at. And like the Mercedes, things break often and are ridiculously expensive to fix. They have obviously prioritized other things. But if you want that premium, BMW feel that makes driving anything else feel and sound like a fun can on wheels, that high end German engineering with all it's flaws is about your only option.
  - 2143 5y ago
    BMWs tend to be more reliable than Mercedes, based on acquaintances who drive BMWs. > But if you want that premium, BMW feel that makes driving anything else feel and sound like a fun can on wheels You forget Porsche ;) Anyway, before the end of this century computers will probably be doing the driving, and high-end handling likely won't be a priority for anybody anymore. I digress.

redwall_hp 5y ago

DJI is pretty much the most respected brand for camera drones. Lenovo. Aside from Apple, they're one of the core "premium" computer brands and are also one of the big ones for business fleets. TCL seems to be the new Vizio in TVs. Anker is probably the most trusted company for third party chargers, cords and other phone accessories. Polestar is a growing name in luxury cars. I don't know what the sentiment about Haier appliances is (they also bought GE's appliance division), but they definitely have a presence in stores in the US.

fomine3 5y ago
Lenovo is a big one but they acquired IBM and Motorola so not looks like Chinese homegrown.

fomine3 5y ago

Huawei except in the US, but it's gone. Maybe Honor will be.

2143 5y ago

> China has no well known flagship brand demonstrating that level of quality. OnePlus.

ziml77 5y ago
Ha. OnePlus had a hit with the OnePlus One due to being high spec and low cost but they've slid since then. Costs are now up to the level of other flagships but they still operate like they're selling a cheap phone. My previous phone was a OnePlus and despite me running into a nasty issue, they didn't respond to my support requests.