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Laptops create freedom from a fixed position, desktops do not. Sometimes I want to work in the living room. Sometimes I want to work at the coffee shop. Sometim

Laptops create freedom from a fixed position, desktops do not. Sometimes I want to work in the living room. Sometimes I want to work at the coffee shop. Sometimes I want to go into the office. I cannot achieve any of that with a desktop, while I can achieve a desktop-like at any point by plugging in a monitor and using a bluetooth keyboard.

mulmen 5y ago
A Mac Mini is smaller and lighter than a MacBook Pro. I could carry one between my home and office easily. It even simplifies hot desking in the office in a WFH-first world. I never work from the living room. When the weather is nice I sometimes work from the park but to be honest I rarely achieve anything, it's just an excuse to go outside. Same for coffee shops, I can but almost never do.
- gurkendoktor 5y ago
  Notably, the Mac Mini does not have a stupid external power adapter, but just uses a standard cable that costs like $1. I did carry mine around for a while, and it was glorious! I'm not sure why Apple's competitors insist on including a brick that's almost as large as the PC itself.
  - nottorp 5y ago
    > I'm not sure why Apple's competitors insist on including a brick that's almost as large as the PC itself. It's more expensive to design an internal PSU than source a random power brick. Oh wait, i thought it was called "an Apple tax"...
  - mulmen 5y ago
    It would have been really cool if the portable profile concept caught on with iPods. Then we could just have a room full of Mac Minis and plug in our iPhones for (literally!) roaming profiles. But then the company would have to provide me with a iPhone/iPad. Sadly we got iCloud instead, which is radioactive from a corporate infosec perspective.
- hbn 5y ago
  But you're required to bring a power cable, keyboard, mouse, and monitor wherever you want to work, and sit near a power outlet. With a laptop you just bring a single slab-shaped piece of hardware.
  - mulmen 5y ago
    I have all that at home. And a hot desk can provide the same. 14 years ago at my business school we were hot desking with standardized ThinkPads.
- notjustanymike 5y ago
  A mac mini is not a usable piece of hardware on its own; it's an unpowered box with no means of input or output. A brick. To make it viable you must connect all the elements that are integrated natively to a laptop: keyboard, mouse, screen, and power. If you showed up to a completely empty desk with just a mac mini, you'd get very little done.
  - mulmen 5y ago
    Right but I already bring my laptop to a desk with a keyboard, mouse, monitor and dock. So the practical difference is nothing. In fact the Mac Mini is actually less duplication of capability. My MacBook Pro has been out of clamshell mode less than 25 times in a year. Almost all of them to wake up after an OS update.
    - notjustanymike 5y ago
      What you're describing is two desktops with a shared piece of hardware between them. If that works for you, great! However it does ignore my original point of "freedom from a fixed position", and why I made it in the first place. If you don't need to move around, then by all means use a Mac Mini. I personally find myself in a lot of places where there are no traditional workspaces, hence I use a laptop.
      - mulmen 5y ago
        I addressed why this would work for me in my initial reply. I don't need to work from any point. It is enough for me to work from one or two fixed points. The difference between two desktops and carrying a Mac Mini between two workstations is that the computer itself is the same in both locations so all data is still local. It's all the benefits of a laptop that I actually use. I do not use the screen or keyboard on my MacBook, but I suffer the compromised thermals and bulky form factor anyway.
mkmk3 5y ago
Chromebooks/low power laptops can basically act as terminals for a beefier machine at a comparatively small cost (Can you do a gaming pc for less than 1k?). The first time I saw this being done was a game changer, running modern AAA games on a surface tablet, nintendo switch before its time. Your local internet needs to be fast enough but I think that's still a decent population of HN.

mulmen 5y ago

A Mac Mini is smaller and lighter than a MacBook Pro. I could carry one between my home and office easily. It even simplifies hot desking in the office in a WFH-first world. I never work from the living room. When the weather is nice I sometimes work from the park but to be honest I rarely achieve anything, it's just an excuse to go outside. Same for coffee shops, I can but almost never do.

gurkendoktor 5y ago
Notably, the Mac Mini does not have a stupid external power adapter, but just uses a standard cable that costs like $1. I did carry mine around for a while, and it was glorious! I'm not sure why Apple's competitors insist on including a brick that's almost as large as the PC itself.
- nottorp 5y ago
  > I'm not sure why Apple's competitors insist on including a brick that's almost as large as the PC itself. It's more expensive to design an internal PSU than source a random power brick. Oh wait, i thought it was called "an Apple tax"...
- mulmen 5y ago
  It would have been really cool if the portable profile concept caught on with iPods. Then we could just have a room full of Mac Minis and plug in our iPhones for (literally!) roaming profiles. But then the company would have to provide me with a iPhone/iPad. Sadly we got iCloud instead, which is radioactive from a corporate infosec perspective.
hbn 5y ago
But you're required to bring a power cable, keyboard, mouse, and monitor wherever you want to work, and sit near a power outlet. With a laptop you just bring a single slab-shaped piece of hardware.
- mulmen 5y ago
  I have all that at home. And a hot desk can provide the same. 14 years ago at my business school we were hot desking with standardized ThinkPads.
notjustanymike 5y ago
A mac mini is not a usable piece of hardware on its own; it's an unpowered box with no means of input or output. A brick. To make it viable you must connect all the elements that are integrated natively to a laptop: keyboard, mouse, screen, and power. If you showed up to a completely empty desk with just a mac mini, you'd get very little done.
- mulmen 5y ago
  Right but I already bring my laptop to a desk with a keyboard, mouse, monitor and dock. So the practical difference is nothing. In fact the Mac Mini is actually less duplication of capability. My MacBook Pro has been out of clamshell mode less than 25 times in a year. Almost all of them to wake up after an OS update.
  - notjustanymike 5y ago
    What you're describing is two desktops with a shared piece of hardware between them. If that works for you, great! However it does ignore my original point of "freedom from a fixed position", and why I made it in the first place. If you don't need to move around, then by all means use a Mac Mini. I personally find myself in a lot of places where there are no traditional workspaces, hence I use a laptop.
    - mulmen 5y ago
      I addressed why this would work for me in my initial reply. I don't need to work from any point. It is enough for me to work from one or two fixed points. The difference between two desktops and carrying a Mac Mini between two workstations is that the computer itself is the same in both locations so all data is still local. It's all the benefits of a laptop that I actually use. I do not use the screen or keyboard on my MacBook, but I suffer the compromised thermals and bulky form factor anyway.

mkmk3 5y ago

Chromebooks/low power laptops can basically act as terminals for a beefier machine at a comparatively small cost (Can you do a gaming pc for less than 1k?). The first time I saw this being done was a game changer, running modern AAA games on a surface tablet, nintendo switch before its time. Your local internet needs to be fast enough but I think that's still a decent population of HN.