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> How long should they keep data that ... the ... owner of the account agree should be removed? Has the Internet Archive actually made a statement about that?

> How long should they keep data that ... the ... owner of the account agree should be removed? Has the Internet Archive actually made a statement about that? Some Flickr support person claimed they agreed to it in a support thread, but I can imagine a lot of scenarios where there might be an unacceptable amount of spin going on (e.g. Flickr made some unreasonable ultimatum, and IA chose to delete the account instead of accept). > If this isn't sufficient rationale to delete data, what is? That the data is truly unwanted.

root_axis 5y ago
> Some Flickr support person What's that about? Is this meant to cast doubt on the reliability of the speaker? > I can imagine a lot of scenarios where there might be an unacceptable amount of spin going on Ok well, I am going to take Flickr's word as stated until I have reason to believe otherwise, I don't see any reason to speculate on arbitrary alternative scenarios, Flickr doesn't have a history of lying about support issues as far as I am aware. > That the data is truly unwanted. There's not really a way to reasonably assess if that's the case besides what the owner of the account communicates.
johtso 5y ago
https://twitter.com/brewster_kahle/status/1511009965795786754 https://twitter.com/brewster_kahle/status/151100996579578675... "The @internetarchive did not ask to take these off of Flickr's site. We do not have any power of them-- it is up to them. The Images are still in the books that are hosted on https://t.co/NHtWm9GEQu https://t.co/NHtWm9GEQu But I understand Flickr is interested in putting them back up." https://twitter.com/DonMacAskill/status/1511018079802720256 https://twitter.com/DonMacAskill/status/1511018079802720256 "To be clear, Flickr didn't delete this. Our friends at the Internet Archive did. It's their account. I don't know all the details, but I believe we've been collaborating with IA on ways to improve the Commons, and I think removing the Books account was part of that effort."

root_axis 5y ago

> Some Flickr support person What's that about? Is this meant to cast doubt on the reliability of the speaker? > I can imagine a lot of scenarios where there might be an unacceptable amount of spin going on Ok well, I am going to take Flickr's word as stated until I have reason to believe otherwise, I don't see any reason to speculate on arbitrary alternative scenarios, Flickr doesn't have a history of lying about support issues as far as I am aware. > That the data is truly unwanted. There's not really a way to reasonably assess if that's the case besides what the owner of the account communicates.

johtso 5y ago

https://twitter.com/brewster_kahle/status/1511009965795786754 https://twitter.com/brewster_kahle/status/151100996579578675... "The @internetarchive did not ask to take these off of Flickr's site. We do not have any power of them-- it is up to them. The Images are still in the books that are hosted on https://t.co/NHtWm9GEQu https://t.co/NHtWm9GEQu But I understand Flickr is interested in putting them back up." https://twitter.com/DonMacAskill/status/1511018079802720256 https://twitter.com/DonMacAskill/status/1511018079802720256 "To be clear, Flickr didn't delete this. Our friends at the Internet Archive did. It's their account. I don't know all the details, but I believe we've been collaborating with IA on ways to improve the Commons, and I think removing the Books account was part of that effort."