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Free speech is a core liberal value. I can't believe how many people are confused about this. [Free speech and the open town square is how we got away from the
by memish 5y ago
Free speech is a core liberal value. I can't believe how many people are confused about this.
[Free speech and the open town square is how we got away from the atrocities you outline. There is no societal progress without free speech, which twitter is actively clamping down on. It's regressive and taking us back to when dominant ideas couldn't be challenged.]
- TameAntelope 5y agoAgreed, but what's actually unbelievable is that people seem to not realize that it goes both ways, and I'm just as free to shame and ridicule someone for their speech as they are to express their shitty little racist ideas. [No, we got away from the practices I mentioned above through discussion that did not take place in a "public" town square. Basically anywhere else, but certainly not the "public" town square. One reason, among many, is that a "town square" is not nearly as ubiquitous as you seem to believe, historically. Dominant ideas can easily and are frequently challenged on Twitter and in modern discourse generally, it's just not tolerant of the racist, awful ideas that some might want to discuss. It's not going to lead to progress to continue to discuss how one race is superior to another, for example, and yet that's all some groups seem to want to talk about.]
- bko 5y agoSure. No one is arguing you shouldn't be able to ridicule someone online (I guess it depends on who you're ridiculing right?). But I don't think you should get banned from the platform for doing so. That's the problem people have with Twitter. Especially since its very inconsistently applied and very out of touch with what the overwhelming majority of the country believes. There's also a cultural aspect that can't really be solved by Twitter, like petitioning someone to be fired for making a gay joke ten years ago.
- TameAntelope 5y agoTwitter agrees! You are not banned from that platform for ridiculing anyone.
- bko 5y agoTwitter suspended someone for saying "Ok dude..." [0] https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/ok-dude-twitter-suspends-rapper-zuby-for-hateful-tweet-at-transgender-antifa-activist https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/ok-dude-twitter-susp...
- TameAntelope 5y ago@ZubyMusic tweeted 44 minutes ago, so no he was not banned.
- stjohnswarts 5y agoI guess that the "appeal" was ruled reasonable and zuby made it back? Of course Washington Examiner will never follow up on the matter as they're well known, like Fox, to print front page knee jerks and way-back-page retractions.
- tekknik 5y ago
- TameAntelope 5y agoWashington Examiner is not known for its accurate reporting. [0] [0] https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/washington-examiner/ https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/washington-examiner/
- tekknik 5y agoSure, but it doesn’t change what I wrote. In fact your non-peer reviewed site had this to say about CNN: “ CNN typically utilizes loaded emotional words in sensational headlines such as this: Trump pounces on Justice Department report findings.” https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/left/cnn-bias/ https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/left/cnn-bias/ So are we gonna be biased or call every guilty party out?
- stjohnswarts 5y agoDon't the owners of twitter get some say? If you can't keep your argument with some nazi p.o.s. dialed down to an 8, why should they have to host either of you? I mean they own the platform, you and the nazi can take it to DMs on some other platform.
- splitstud 5y ago
- ceejayoz 5y agoFreedom of association is also a core liberal value.