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Why?

tablespoon 5y ago
> Why? Because I think it's bad form to just up and delete data like this, especially something that's about archiving/preservation.
- root_axis 5y ago
  How long should they keep data that both the hosting platform and owner of the account agree should be removed? If this isn't sufficient rationale to delete data, what is?
  - tablespoon 5y ago
    > How long should they keep data that ... the ... owner of the account agree should be removed? Has the Internet Archive actually made a statement about that? Some Flickr support person claimed they agreed to it in a support thread, but I can imagine a lot of scenarios where there might be an unacceptable amount of spin going on (e.g. Flickr made some unreasonable ultimatum, and IA chose to delete the account instead of accept). > If this isn't sufficient rationale to delete data, what is? That the data is truly unwanted.
    - root_axis 5y ago
      > Some Flickr support person What's that about? Is this meant to cast doubt on the reliability of the speaker? > I can imagine a lot of scenarios where there might be an unacceptable amount of spin going on Ok well, I am going to take Flickr's word as stated until I have reason to believe otherwise, I don't see any reason to speculate on arbitrary alternative scenarios, Flickr doesn't have a history of lying about support issues as far as I am aware. > That the data is truly unwanted. There's not really a way to reasonably assess if that's the case besides what the owner of the account communicates.
    - johtso 5y ago
      https://twitter.com/brewster_kahle/status/1511009965795786754 https://twitter.com/brewster_kahle/status/151100996579578675... "The @internetarchive did not ask to take these off of Flickr's site. We do not have any power of them-- it is up to them. The Images are still in the books that are hosted on https://t.co/NHtWm9GEQu https://t.co/NHtWm9GEQu But I understand Flickr is interested in putting them back up." https://twitter.com/DonMacAskill/status/1511018079802720256 https://twitter.com/DonMacAskill/status/1511018079802720256 "To be clear, Flickr didn't delete this. Our friends at the Internet Archive did. It's their account. I don't know all the details, but I believe we've been collaborating with IA on ways to improve the Commons, and I think removing the Books account was part of that effort."

Why?

> Why? Because I think it's bad form to just up and delete data like this, especially something that's about archiving/preservation.

root_axis 5y ago
How long should they keep data that both the hosting platform and owner of the account agree should be removed? If this isn't sufficient rationale to delete data, what is?
- tablespoon 5y ago
  > How long should they keep data that ... the ... owner of the account agree should be removed? Has the Internet Archive actually made a statement about that? Some Flickr support person claimed they agreed to it in a support thread, but I can imagine a lot of scenarios where there might be an unacceptable amount of spin going on (e.g. Flickr made some unreasonable ultimatum, and IA chose to delete the account instead of accept). > If this isn't sufficient rationale to delete data, what is? That the data is truly unwanted.
  - root_axis 5y ago
    > Some Flickr support person What's that about? Is this meant to cast doubt on the reliability of the speaker? > I can imagine a lot of scenarios where there might be an unacceptable amount of spin going on Ok well, I am going to take Flickr's word as stated until I have reason to believe otherwise, I don't see any reason to speculate on arbitrary alternative scenarios, Flickr doesn't have a history of lying about support issues as far as I am aware. > That the data is truly unwanted. There's not really a way to reasonably assess if that's the case besides what the owner of the account communicates.
  - johtso 5y ago
    https://twitter.com/brewster_kahle/status/1511009965795786754 https://twitter.com/brewster_kahle/status/151100996579578675... "The @internetarchive did not ask to take these off of Flickr's site. We do not have any power of them-- it is up to them. The Images are still in the books that are hosted on https://t.co/NHtWm9GEQu https://t.co/NHtWm9GEQu But I understand Flickr is interested in putting them back up." https://twitter.com/DonMacAskill/status/1511018079802720256 https://twitter.com/DonMacAskill/status/1511018079802720256 "To be clear, Flickr didn't delete this. Our friends at the Internet Archive did. It's their account. I don't know all the details, but I believe we've been collaborating with IA on ways to improve the Commons, and I think removing the Books account was part of that effort."