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They may be able to make more money this way. To me this is akin to explain why we should be strip mining or clear cutting more. It works from a scorched earth

They may be able to make more money this way. To me this is akin to explain why we should be strip mining or clear cutting more. It works from a scorched earth capitalism perspective, but doesn't leave is in a good place

PaulHoule 5y ago
Subscribers are more valuable people to market to than non-subscribers because they've already qualified themselves by proving they'll spend money for something.
- AnIdiotOnTheNet 5y ago
  A big part of that something is not wanting any goddamned ads though.
  - robbedpeter 5y ago
    Ads are by their very nature derogatory to anywhere they are placed. Ads never add value to any experience. They always take time and attention from the viewer's intended activity. Not all product information is advertisement.
    - cupofpython 5y ago
      Netflix could have gotten away with ads a few years ago maybe. Not now with all the competition available. their content is relatively weak tbh now that a lot of the classics have moved to other platforms. I'd be gone immediately
      - horsawlarway 5y ago
        I don't think they could have, even then. Competition was incredibly fierce, it just came from cable TV. The main subscriber base for Netflix was essentially folks who didn't want to see ads, and were willing to ditch cable tv for that experience.
        cupofpython 5y ago
        Probably true, but somewhere between 2015 and 2020 netflix was a pretty dominant monopoly - at least in my area. Controlled viewing comparable to directTV / OnDemand was the main selling point. Being able to binge an entire show at will. Breaking Bad hitting its peak. I think they would have gotten away with it
    - PaulHoule 5y ago
      I think many people think the ads on the Superbowl are an attraction.
      - panda88888 5y ago
        I feel super bowl commercial are different though. They aren’t the average ads—they are the high budget, high creativity jewel crown of ads.
        peapicker 5y ago
        Yep, they are the top of the dung heap.
      - robbedpeter 5y ago
        The advertisement part of the superbowl content takes away from being entertained. The negative impact to the consumer is being manipulated, for example, to prefer budweiser over coors because the giant horses and dalmatian puppy made you tear up. That's got nothing to do with beer. Remove the advertisement / manipulation from the content and it's more valuable to the consumer.
axg11 5y ago
Agreed. Netflix need to decide whether they want to be more like Google/Amazon (multiple diversified bets) or Spotify (one undiversified but very strong ecosystem).
nopenopenopeno 5y ago
This is just regular capitalism. Adam Smith, John Stuart Mill, and Karl Marx all agreed on the tendency of the rate of profit to fall. https://wikipedia.org/wiki/Tendency_of_the_rate_of_profit_to_fall https://wikipedia.org/wiki/Tendency_of_the_rate_of_profit_to...
- unmole 5y ago
  Right and everyone agrees Smith and Marx got everything right. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labor_theory_of_value https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labor_theory_of_value

PaulHoule 5y ago

Subscribers are more valuable people to market to than non-subscribers because they've already qualified themselves by proving they'll spend money for something.

AnIdiotOnTheNet 5y ago
A big part of that something is not wanting any goddamned ads though.
- robbedpeter 5y ago
  Ads are by their very nature derogatory to anywhere they are placed. Ads never add value to any experience. They always take time and attention from the viewer's intended activity. Not all product information is advertisement.
  - cupofpython 5y ago
    Netflix could have gotten away with ads a few years ago maybe. Not now with all the competition available. their content is relatively weak tbh now that a lot of the classics have moved to other platforms. I'd be gone immediately
    - horsawlarway 5y ago
      I don't think they could have, even then. Competition was incredibly fierce, it just came from cable TV. The main subscriber base for Netflix was essentially folks who didn't want to see ads, and were willing to ditch cable tv for that experience.
      - cupofpython 5y ago
        Probably true, but somewhere between 2015 and 2020 netflix was a pretty dominant monopoly - at least in my area. Controlled viewing comparable to directTV / OnDemand was the main selling point. Being able to binge an entire show at will. Breaking Bad hitting its peak. I think they would have gotten away with it
  - PaulHoule 5y ago
    I think many people think the ads on the Superbowl are an attraction.
    - panda88888 5y ago
      I feel super bowl commercial are different though. They aren’t the average ads—they are the high budget, high creativity jewel crown of ads.
      - peapicker 5y ago
        Yep, they are the top of the dung heap.
    - robbedpeter 5y ago
      The advertisement part of the superbowl content takes away from being entertained. The negative impact to the consumer is being manipulated, for example, to prefer budweiser over coors because the giant horses and dalmatian puppy made you tear up. That's got nothing to do with beer. Remove the advertisement / manipulation from the content and it's more valuable to the consumer.

axg11 5y ago

Agreed. Netflix need to decide whether they want to be more like Google/Amazon (multiple diversified bets) or Spotify (one undiversified but very strong ecosystem).

nopenopenopeno 5y ago

This is just regular capitalism. Adam Smith, John Stuart Mill, and Karl Marx all agreed on the tendency of the rate of profit to fall. https://wikipedia.org/wiki/Tendency_of_the_rate_of_profit_to_fall https://wikipedia.org/wiki/Tendency_of_the_rate_of_profit_to...

unmole 5y ago
Right and everyone agrees Smith and Marx got everything right. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labor_theory_of_value https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labor_theory_of_value