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Ive often wondered if air force 1 is always full of president.

jedberg 5y ago
It is. It has a different call sign when it flies without the President.
SketchySeaBeast 5y ago
To catch you in a bit of pedantry, "Air Force 1" is the designation of any aircraft the president is on, so technically, yes? If the vice-president is flying I think it's called "Air Force 2".
- keiferski 5y ago
  A modern take on an old classic: is the plane Air Force One because the president is onboard, or is the president onboard because it's Air Force One? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euthyphro_dilemma https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euthyphro_dilemma
  - hef19898 5y ago
    Every aircraft carrying the President is Air Force One, every helicopter carrying him is Marine One. Even if it would be a US Airways flight from Baltimore to Chicago.
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    - rootusrootus 5y ago
      In practice, yes. Pedantically, any Air Force aircraft carrying the president is Air Force One, no matter how it flies. Any Marine Corps aircraft will be Marine One. And as you might expect, there would be an Army One and Navy One as well. I do not believe you are correct on the designation for a commercial flight if the president were on board. There is 'Executive One' if he flies on a US civil aircraft, but that is still federally owned.
    - quantumwannabe 5y ago
      No, if the President was on a US Airways flight, he would be on Executive One [1], not Air Force One. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_One https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_One
      - airstrike 5y ago
        Very interesting... from the article, in case others were also wondering: > On December 26, 1973, to "set an example for the rest of the nation during the current energy crisis" and to "demonstrate his confidence in the airlines", then-President Richard Nixon became the only sitting president to travel on a regularly scheduled commercial airline flight when he flew on a United Airlines DC-10 from Washington Dulles International Airport to Los Angeles International Airport.[2] A Nixon aide carried a suitcase-sized secure communication device on board the plane, so that the President could remain in contact with Washington in the event of an emergency.
      - hef19898 5y ago
        I stand corrected.
jenny91 5y ago
It's also military and they don't broadcast ADS-B unless they want to. They have their own encrypted transponder for other stuff.

It is. It has a different call sign when it flies without the President.

To catch you in a bit of pedantry, "Air Force 1" is the designation of any aircraft the president is on, so technically, yes? If the vice-president is flying I think it's called "Air Force 2".

keiferski 5y ago
A modern take on an old classic: is the plane Air Force One because the president is onboard, or is the president onboard because it's Air Force One? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euthyphro_dilemma https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euthyphro_dilemma
- hef19898 5y ago
  Every aircraft carrying the President is Air Force One, every helicopter carrying him is Marine One. Even if it would be a US Airways flight from Baltimore to Chicago.
  - deleted 5y ago
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  - rootusrootus 5y ago
    In practice, yes. Pedantically, any Air Force aircraft carrying the president is Air Force One, no matter how it flies. Any Marine Corps aircraft will be Marine One. And as you might expect, there would be an Army One and Navy One as well. I do not believe you are correct on the designation for a commercial flight if the president were on board. There is 'Executive One' if he flies on a US civil aircraft, but that is still federally owned.
  - quantumwannabe 5y ago
    No, if the President was on a US Airways flight, he would be on Executive One [1], not Air Force One. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_One https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_One
    - airstrike 5y ago
      Very interesting... from the article, in case others were also wondering: > On December 26, 1973, to "set an example for the rest of the nation during the current energy crisis" and to "demonstrate his confidence in the airlines", then-President Richard Nixon became the only sitting president to travel on a regularly scheduled commercial airline flight when he flew on a United Airlines DC-10 from Washington Dulles International Airport to Los Angeles International Airport.[2] A Nixon aide carried a suitcase-sized secure communication device on board the plane, so that the President could remain in contact with Washington in the event of an emergency.
    - hef19898 5y ago
      I stand corrected.

jenny91 5y ago

It's also military and they don't broadcast ADS-B unless they want to. They have their own encrypted transponder for other stuff.