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Yep, pretty much. I'm really disappointed in the way the HN crowd seems utterly unable to see beyond "it's free speech!" when it comes to situations like this.

jakelazaroff 5y ago
I generally agree, but this is really not the horse I’d hitch my wagon to. They’re publishing public information about the richest person in the world! He absolutely deserves far more scrutiny than you or me.
- simonh 5y ago
  Scrutiny yes, stalking no and this is getting uncomfortably close to the latter. I understand the argument that this could be used to show potentially dubious behaviour, but that could already be shown from the flight records if it occurred without publishing live details of every single flight. That's simply not necessary.
  - jakelazaroff 5y ago
    I disagree. The issue with stalking is that it’s threatening. I don’t think Elon is in any way threatened by this.
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cma 5y ago
The flight tracking data is also partially a public good. Didn't it show him asking workers to come in against California sherrif's office order and then fleeing in plane so he couldn't be arrested in California (from early pandemic, might be remembering some details wrong), essentially asking his employees to face jail while dodging any chance of it for himself? That may still not outweigh the privacy concerns.
- fleddr 5y ago
  He's still a person. Don't publicly track the whereabouts of people, it's creepy, intimidating and threatening.
  - rootusrootus 5y ago
    Conversely, don't become a public figure if you can't handle the costs. This kind of stuff comes with the territory. I don't advocate stalking public figures, but I have more sympathy for random private individuals being stalked than I do people who willingly choose the spotlight.
    - 0F 5y ago
      Public figures are human beings too believe it or not
      - rootusrootus 5y ago
        Yes, of course. And they made a choice willingly, knowing that there is a price. Can't have the upsides of being famous without the downsides, they are a package deal.
  - vageli 5y ago
    They are not publicly tracking any person, though, just a plane I thought.
    - hermitdev 5y ago
      Would it be any different if they were tracking his car? Does tracking an object owned by a person somehow make it any better? What's next, Musk's TV viewing habits? Browsing history? These are just things and not the person, so it's ok, right? No, of course not.
      - vageli 5y ago

jakelazaroff 5y ago

I generally agree, but this is really not the horse I’d hitch my wagon to. They’re publishing public information about the richest person in the world! He absolutely deserves far more scrutiny than you or me.

simonh 5y ago
Scrutiny yes, stalking no and this is getting uncomfortably close to the latter. I understand the argument that this could be used to show potentially dubious behaviour, but that could already be shown from the flight records if it occurred without publishing live details of every single flight. That's simply not necessary.
- jakelazaroff 5y ago
  I disagree. The issue with stalking is that it’s threatening. I don’t think Elon is in any way threatened by this.
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cma 5y ago

The flight tracking data is also partially a public good. Didn't it show him asking workers to come in against California sherrif's office order and then fleeing in plane so he couldn't be arrested in California (from early pandemic, might be remembering some details wrong), essentially asking his employees to face jail while dodging any chance of it for himself? That may still not outweigh the privacy concerns.

fleddr 5y ago
He's still a person. Don't publicly track the whereabouts of people, it's creepy, intimidating and threatening.
- rootusrootus 5y ago
  Conversely, don't become a public figure if you can't handle the costs. This kind of stuff comes with the territory. I don't advocate stalking public figures, but I have more sympathy for random private individuals being stalked than I do people who willingly choose the spotlight.
  - 0F 5y ago
    Public figures are human beings too believe it or not
    - rootusrootus 5y ago
      Yes, of course. And they made a choice willingly, knowing that there is a price. Can't have the upsides of being famous without the downsides, they are a package deal.
- vageli 5y ago
  They are not publicly tracking any person, though, just a plane I thought.
  - hermitdev 5y ago
    Would it be any different if they were tracking his car? Does tracking an object owned by a person somehow make it any better? What's next, Musk's TV viewing habits? Browsing history? These are just things and not the person, so it's ok, right? No, of course not.
    - vageli 5y ago