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What comfortable life do you think he's giving up? Owning only 10 houses instead of 45?

holmesworcester 5y ago
The comfortable life of not working full time. Even if you say that someone like him simply enjoys work, it seems clear that he's often working an uncomfortable amount, in order to achieve his two stated objectives, which at least in his perspective are altruistic (and are objectively not the best ways for him to get richer.)
- beaconstudios 5y ago
  I'm not sure you can argue that the richest man in the world got rich by accident while pursuing purely altruistic goals. He clearly knows what he's doing. I say this while having an appreciation for the existence of Tesla and SpaceX, but let's not pretend he supresses unionisation at his factories because he cares too much.
  - rizzaxc 5y ago
    not by accident, but getting rich clearly wasn't his goal when he dumped all his money into the start ups. why aren't we glad the richest man in the world got there by using his resources for futuristic ideas instead of something like oil and gas
    - beaconstudios 5y ago
      I actually am glad of that - I think Elon is one of the less-bad billionaires. His views are stupid and most of his ideas are too, and billionaires shouldn't exist at all, but I am glad that he made his money building companies that are doing important things. Well, SpaceX and Tesla are - the Boring Company and Neuralink seem like boondoggles, to say nothing of Hyperloop.
      - HWR_14 5y ago
        SpaceX is interesting, but are they really doing anything important? Maybe if starlink goes global, but until then it doesn't seem to change anything in my or many peoples lives by not existing. They are working on interesting problems though, far more interesting to me than most companies (including Tesla)
        airstrike 5y ago
        > SpaceX is interesting, but are they really doing anything important? I'd say it's the most important company on the planet seeing as it's the only one that's truly carving a path for us to one day become a spacefaring civilization and doing so at a seemingly 10x faster pace than competitors
        status200 5y ago
        Spacefaring? Hopefully you mean Marsfaring (at best, if you can find a good reason to set up a colony there) The average stellar density around our sun is about 0.004 per cubic light year, so definitely don't get your hopes up on some Star Trek scenario for the next few hundred years at least. What is SpaceX's value again? P.S. Musk himself admits that SpaceX wouldn't be a thing if it hadn't been saved by a phone call from NASA. You know, the government, the same entity that Musk worshipers seem to dismiss as the lesser party when it comes to ingenuity and forward-progression.
        airstrike 5y ago
        I said SpaceX is moving us towards that goal, not that it will turn us into a spacefaring civilization Whether it was saved by a phone call from NASA doesn't detract from its merits
        HWR_14 5y ago
        > SpaceX wouldn't be a thing if it hadn't been saved by a phone call from NASA I believe you, but when I tell other people that they don't believe me. Do you have something I can show them.
xiphias2 5y ago
You should check your facts. Elon doesn’t own any houses, he lives in rentals. Also in 2008 when he didn’t even have money for that after putting all his PayPal money into the startups, he was living at his friends’ places. But the main point is the side comment: I’m having fun coding whenever I want to, but I strictly do non-payed hobby projects, as I don’t want to get into commitments ever again.
- mupuff1234 5y ago
  And how do you know what you stated are actually facts?
  - xiphias2 5y ago
    `Just look at the tax law of California, I wouldn’t own a house there either.
    - saithier 5y ago
      You mean the state with one of the lowest effective property tax rates in the country? Your property tax is pegged to 1% of the purchase price, and essentially never goes up ever again. One of the only (if not the only) state where that happens. The main reason not to own in CA is the insane purchase price, not the taxes.
  - cloudwalking 5y ago
    Multiple books and first-party reports. Hundreds of interviews.
    - deleted 5y ago
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  - trashtester 5y ago
    He claimed to plan to offload all his 7 houses in 2020, and it seems that this was completed only a few weeks ago.

The comfortable life of not working full time. Even if you say that someone like him simply enjoys work, it seems clear that he's often working an uncomfortable amount, in order to achieve his two stated objectives, which at least in his perspective are altruistic (and are objectively not the best ways for him to get richer.)

beaconstudios 5y ago
I'm not sure you can argue that the richest man in the world got rich by accident while pursuing purely altruistic goals. He clearly knows what he's doing. I say this while having an appreciation for the existence of Tesla and SpaceX, but let's not pretend he supresses unionisation at his factories because he cares too much.
- rizzaxc 5y ago
  not by accident, but getting rich clearly wasn't his goal when he dumped all his money into the start ups. why aren't we glad the richest man in the world got there by using his resources for futuristic ideas instead of something like oil and gas
  - beaconstudios 5y ago
    I actually am glad of that - I think Elon is one of the less-bad billionaires. His views are stupid and most of his ideas are too, and billionaires shouldn't exist at all, but I am glad that he made his money building companies that are doing important things. Well, SpaceX and Tesla are - the Boring Company and Neuralink seem like boondoggles, to say nothing of Hyperloop.
    - HWR_14 5y ago
      SpaceX is interesting, but are they really doing anything important? Maybe if starlink goes global, but until then it doesn't seem to change anything in my or many peoples lives by not existing. They are working on interesting problems though, far more interesting to me than most companies (including Tesla)
      - airstrike 5y ago
        > SpaceX is interesting, but are they really doing anything important? I'd say it's the most important company on the planet seeing as it's the only one that's truly carving a path for us to one day become a spacefaring civilization and doing so at a seemingly 10x faster pace than competitors
        status200 5y ago
        Spacefaring? Hopefully you mean Marsfaring (at best, if you can find a good reason to set up a colony there) The average stellar density around our sun is about 0.004 per cubic light year, so definitely don't get your hopes up on some Star Trek scenario for the next few hundred years at least. What is SpaceX's value again? P.S. Musk himself admits that SpaceX wouldn't be a thing if it hadn't been saved by a phone call from NASA. You know, the government, the same entity that Musk worshipers seem to dismiss as the lesser party when it comes to ingenuity and forward-progression.
        airstrike 5y ago
        I said SpaceX is moving us towards that goal, not that it will turn us into a spacefaring civilization Whether it was saved by a phone call from NASA doesn't detract from its merits
        HWR_14 5y ago
        > SpaceX wouldn't be a thing if it hadn't been saved by a phone call from NASA I believe you, but when I tell other people that they don't believe me. Do you have something I can show them.

xiphias2 5y ago

You should check your facts. Elon doesn’t own any houses, he lives in rentals. Also in 2008 when he didn’t even have money for that after putting all his PayPal money into the startups, he was living at his friends’ places. But the main point is the side comment: I’m having fun coding whenever I want to, but I strictly do non-payed hobby projects, as I don’t want to get into commitments ever again.

mupuff1234 5y ago
And how do you know what you stated are actually facts?
- xiphias2 5y ago
  `Just look at the tax law of California, I wouldn’t own a house there either.
  - saithier 5y ago
    You mean the state with one of the lowest effective property tax rates in the country? Your property tax is pegged to 1% of the purchase price, and essentially never goes up ever again. One of the only (if not the only) state where that happens. The main reason not to own in CA is the insane purchase price, not the taxes.
- cloudwalking 5y ago
  Multiple books and first-party reports. Hundreds of interviews.
  - deleted 5y ago
    [deleted]
- trashtester 5y ago
  He claimed to plan to offload all his 7 houses in 2020, and it seems that this was completed only a few weeks ago.